Which car should I choose? same question as the other guy :P

[Hitman813]

hate to break the news to ya but it takes alot more than 2 years to become an ase master

[AlexRhodes]

http://www.autopi.com/ASEcertifications.htm

theres only 8

There's actually 10 including Small vehicle diesels and the specialty section Exhaust test.

There are actually a lot more than that. You can get the A1-A8, P1 or P@ which ever and then for big trucks, etc etc. Not sure how many in all, but there are quite a bit, but to be 18 and have all of that and to still be a janitor? I mean besides the 2 years of actual experience before you can become ASE Cert'd.

You can become master certified with JUST A1-8. In the automotive section. The other sections only apply to those specific industries.

AS FOR THE JOB I HAVE NOW it is not my career. I am a full time student. it is an APPRENTICESHIP and i will be quitting as soon as i get accepted into an MSAT. The MSATs offer tuition reimbursment, so they actually REQUIRE you to work for them, having payed for my training. THAT will be my career. And i'll be working flat rate at that time. And i'll say this again, 2 years of work experience is MASTER certified. I will pull up my designation letter and email you a PDF of it if you'd like. I am ASE certified. And i have all of this at 18 because i dropped out and GEDd at the beginning of my junior year, and started at UTI right away. I still have about 8 months of school, not including an MSATs i take.

[CleanSierra]

I didn't at all say that you don't learn while youre there. I just don't see how sweeping a floor qualifies as an apprentice. The purpose of being an apprentice is learning a trade from a skilled employer.

[AlexRhodes]

hate to break the news to ya but it takes alot more than 2 years to become an ase master

I'm NOT ASE MASTER CERTIFIED AND NEVER SAID I WAS. lol. I am ASE certified automotive technician. and i have the designation letter and credentials to prove it. I get 1 year for being in an accredited tech school, and i will have one year from my job now as soon as i graduate, after 2 years, any one with all tests in any one section of the ASE's, receives the designation "Master Technician"...i.e... ASE master certified.

[AlexRhodes]

I didn't at all say that you don't learn while youre there. I just don't see how sweeping a floor qualifies as an apprentice. The purpose of being an apprentice is learning a trade from a skilled employer.

I work for a journeyman technician. I am his apprentice. he teaches me shit, and he tells me what to do. i mop his bay, i change oil for him, i sweep for him. HE gets the flat rate pay, and i get my hourly wage.

[CleanSierra]

Look up world motors of Scottsdale and their reviews. Not a place I would choose to work.

[CleanSierra]

They buy wrecked cars at auction, fix cosmetics and sell the cars to unknowing buyers....

[sayhuh?]

http://www.autopi.com/ASEcertifications.htm

theres only 8

There's actually 10 including Small vehicle diesels and the specialty section Exhaust test.

There are actually a lot more than that. You can get the A1-A8, P1 or P@ which ever and then for big trucks, etc etc. Not sure how many in all, but there are quite a bit, but to be 18 and have all of that and to still be a janitor? I mean besides the 2 years of actual experience before you can become ASE Cert'd.

You can become master certified with JUST A1-8. In the automotive section. The other sections only apply to those specific industries.

AS FOR THE JOB I HAVE NOW it is not my career. I am a full time student. it is an APPRENTICESHIP and i will be quitting as soon as i get accepted into an MSAT. The MSATs offer tuition reimbursment, so they actually REQUIRE you to work for them, having payed for my training. THAT will be my career. And i'll be working flat rate at that time. And i'll say this again, 2 years of work experience is MASTER certified. I will pull up my designation letter and email you a PDF of it if you'd like. I am ASE certified. And i have all of this at 18 because i dropped out and GEDd at the beginning of my junior year, and started at UTI right away. I still have about 8 months of school, not including an MSATs i take.

You still need two years of work experience.

http://ase.com/Tests/ASE-Certification-Tests/Work-Experience.aspx

Two-Year Requirement

To become ASE-certified, you must pass an ASE test and have at least two years of relevant full-time, hands-on work experience in the motor vehicle service industry. To notify ASE about your work experience, you must complete and submit the Work Experience Reporting Form. You can download a copy of this form using the link below. You can submit the form any time after you have registered to take any ASE certification test.

You may receive full credit for the two-year work experience requirement with the following:

* Completion of Apprenticeship: Satisfactory completion of either a three-or four-year bona fide apprenticeship program.

Meh...get to bed.

[AlexRhodes]

As for the Certs...

I take my ASE's on my own time. In fact i JUST finished up this testing period. Registration begins again September 1st.

I received the EPA 609 during my climate control phase.

I got the All-data cert and Ford TCSH cert during my service writing class.

I earned my Pro-cut cert during my brakes class.

I am receiving Ford creds as i go through Ford FACT..and when i graduate from FACT in June 2012 i will be 4 away from being a ford Master Tech.

If i get into Porsche PTAP.... I will graduate with ALL the Porsche Creds, and be required to sign a contract to work for them for 2-5 years at any location they choose, working FULL flat rate as a Porsche B-Tech. After five years i will receive Porsche A-tech credentials.

Porsche is hard to get into, so i have my back up plan of MBSTAR or the BMW msat called STEP... all of which work exactly the same way, you graduate a fully certified technician and receive a contract. Go to the UTI website and read up if you really care.

[AlexRhodes]

http://www.autopi.com/ASEcertifications.htm

theres only 8

There's actually 10 including Small vehicle diesels and the specialty section Exhaust test.

There are actually a lot more than that. You can get the A1-A8, P1 or P@ which ever and then for big trucks, etc etc. Not sure how many in all, but there are quite a bit, but to be 18 and have all of that and to still be a janitor? I mean besides the 2 years of actual experience before you can become ASE Cert'd.

You can become master certified with JUST A1-8. In the automotive section. The other sections only apply to those specific industries.

AS FOR THE JOB I HAVE NOW it is not my career. I am a full time student. it is an APPRENTICESHIP and i will be quitting as soon as i get accepted into an MSAT. The MSATs offer tuition reimbursment, so they actually REQUIRE you to work for them, having payed for my training. THAT will be my career. And i'll be working flat rate at that time. And i'll say this again, 2 years of work experience is MASTER certified. I will pull up my designation letter and email you a PDF of it if you'd like. I am ASE certified. And i have all of this at 18 because i dropped out and GEDd at the beginning of my junior year, and started at UTI right away. I still have about 8 months of school, not including an MSATs i take.

You still need two years of work experience.

http://ase.com/Tests/ASE-Certification-Tests/Work-Experience.aspx

Two-Year Requirement

To become ASE-certified, you must pass an ASE test and have at least two years of relevant full-time, hands-on work experience in the motor vehicle service industry. To notify ASE about your work experience, you must complete and submit the Work Experience Reporting Form. You can download a copy of this form using the link below. You can submit the form any time after you have registered to take any ASE certification test.

You may receive full credit for the two-year work experience requirement with the following:

* Completion of Apprenticeship: Satisfactory completion of either a three-or four-year bona fide apprenticeship program.

Meh...get to bed.

I am not planning to complete my apprenticeship. Read what i just posted regarding MSATS.

Also further down the page you just linked:

Different Experience Types

The Work Experience Reporting Form has separate sections for different types of automotive industry job experience, and your work experience must match the kind of certification you are trying to achieve. For example, experience as a Repair Technician (automobile, truck, school bus, etc.) does not satisfy the experience requirements for Collision Damage Estimator (test B6), Automobile Service Consultant (test C1), or Parts Specialist (tests P1, P2, and P4).

Substitutions

You may receive credit for up to one year of your two-year work experience requirement by substituting relevant formal training in one, or a combination, of the following:

High School Training: Two full years of training, either in automobile/truck/school bus repair or in collision repair, refinishing, or damage estimating, may be substituted for one year of work experience.

Post-High School Training: Two full years of post-high school training in a public or private trade school, technical institute, community or four-year college, or in an apprenticeship program may be counted as one year of work experience.

Short Courses: For shorter periods of post-high school training, you may substitute two months of training for one month of work experience.

UTI counts for one year. And my current job counts as another, assuming of course i stay there for a year. I am an apprentice, but i am not pursuing it. I am a full time student in an automotive school. I am referencing my job as a JOB not as an apprenticeship. and as a JOB i will have 1 year of experience.