Guest Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) and ive seen alot of threads were u can be a dick and others where you can be helpfull i have ideas thats why i ask i have went threw with some of the things ive asked i dont have alot of money so im rather limited thats why you see more ideas then actions would you like pics of my se's would that make you post something helpfull or? arnt the stock xxx pretty bad ass as far as xmax goes anyway? you dont want to spend a lot of money, yet you want a level 5 or 6 motor which costs probably a couple hundred dollars right there. and hes right, ive seen thread upon thread of you wanting to make a subwoofer, but you never do, even after all the help you've been given you could've probably made like 10 subs edit: i also still fail to see why you absolutely need a woofer that can move a lot. since when does the amount of excursion the SOLE factor in how loud it will be? Edited September 3, 2011 by Kranny Quote
AMI CUSTOMS Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 Why what are you thinking will happen by having a higher xmax? For one it will have horrible handling and more likely to have coil rock. Those are two reasons why I wouldn't want something like that, and there are a few others I can think of too, but you have to learn I guess. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty
bumonskateboard6 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 Subs are engineered for a reason. Sure there's a few people out there that can throw some parts together and have a great sub, but they all have a ton of experience working with subs that are already designed, or understand the engineering behind a speaker. Quote Current Systems: 2011 BMW 335i Hertz HDP1 DC LVL3 12" Full Carbon Fiber 2002 Acura TlKenwood DNX9980HD2 DCLVL4 12" Subs with LVL5 Parts D.7 CoilsDC 3.5kHertz HSK-165 up front HCX-165 RearHertz HDP4 AmpDC Power Engineering 260 Amp AltBig 3 and amp powered with KNU 1/0XS Power D2400 Up Front i pulled out my dick in class many of times and had it shown. get over it bitch...stupid open legged hairy beavered bitch... going over rms = smaller box, under rms = bigger box... Low voltage doesn't blow amps. That's a myth. A router that does the sub holes makes rounded edges also?
vettedude102 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 I think he wants to do it cause it looks cool. Quote 2 polk audio 4x6'skenwood head-unit 220 amp Mechman alt1979 Corvette 2003 corvette z06 alpine radio and the bose system that came stock
Forevrbumpn Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 What people don't think of when they think "hi xmax" is the more a sub moves back and forth the longer stroke is ONLY good for very low frequencys. You can't do hi xmax on a mid to high frequency woofer. The time it takes a coil to move 1" is quicker than a 2" or 3" excursion. Like the xxx re subs the xmax is so high they only sound good below 25 hz or so( besides the smaller cone area models) . If your looking for sound quality don't bother. Quote I have a ritual called "terminator". I crouch in the shower in the "naked terminator" pose. With eyes closed I crouch for a minute and visualize either Arnie or the guy from the 2nd movie. I then start to hum the T2 theme. Slowly I rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me get through my day. The only problem is if the shower curtain sticks to my terminator leg. It sorta ruins the fantasy.
OldsBoomer Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 Then why do I see a sq based sub with 30mm of xmax? And just because you throw a tall coil into the sub doesn't mean the motor will have the space and depth to allow such throw...thus major former damage and blown sub Quote Suburban Coming Soon
armykyle1 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 SPL motors most likely wouldn't be good for a high xmax build. Since from what I know spl motors have extremely tight gaps, and high xmax subs typically use motors with "loose" gaps. And sounding good is usually user preference. user A might like subs that play tight high bass notes where others might like loud n low. Typically a sub with a high xmax can play lower notes louder. But may not be louder than another sub. I plan on building two 15s using ti baskets and 3hp motors with a lower fs and a relatively high xmax Quote TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting
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