Blackedout Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Its real simple Scooter. The amount of runs needed from front to back are equivalent to the charging capabilities of your system. (Your alts) Wire GuidelinesSay, for the hell of it... For every 150 amps of charging current, you run 2 runs of 1/0. One power, one ground. I run isolated grounds for piece of mind. Knowing that your grounds couldn't possibly get better than they are is nice. Run Oxygen free copper wire. Amperage Draw: Don't beat yourself up over getting the math perfect. Call 1500 watts 150 amps. Call 3000 Watts 300 amps. So on and so forth. You'll always be safe doing this, as the current draw per 10 watts @ over 12 volts is a little less than 1 amp. You're basically adding in a little 'overkill' with this method. When it comes to batteries, get the best.... and follow their guidelines. It'll put you at a great starting point. If you need more after following their chart, well... you can always adjust for that. Alternators: Half your system's current draw. With the additional batteries that you're running, there's no need to have a 1:1 ratio of charging current supplied. Bass notes, unless in a competition setting, aren't consistent. That being said... If you're running 6kw... I think you'd be alright running 3 D3100s and a 300 amp alt. You may not be steady at 15v, but the real goal is to keep it above 12 volts when it comes to daily. Competing is a whole different ballpark. EDIT: There's always a little more to it, but this is like the spark notes version of it. I can't make it more understandable for someone who is just beginning to learn the concepts. You shouldn't have to pull a calculator out to know a ballpark range of where you're at and what you need Edited October 28, 2011 by Blackedout Quote Trunk Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodzyspl Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 what about when they 2volt cells wired up to 18v LOL make it bit harder, but i guess your right. hmm Quote AUSTRALIA do i need say more? HU: some crap pionee AMP: dc 9k @ 18v SUB: 4 elevation audio sqx 12" Battery: 2 neuton power 8200d burp setup for fun 152's soon to come: rebuilt soundstream xxx (2 18" OR 3 15" wall) Bunch speakers, more batts and new HU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 interesting thread Quote REFF'SMy linkEBAYhttp://feedback.ebay...ck&myworld=trueI love car audio so much because I will never be done. I can never win, and I will never get it finished or perfect. It always has me coming back for more, I can never get my fill of it, but I get what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter99 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Its real simple Scooter. The amount of runs needed from front to back are equivalent to the charging capabilities of your system. (Your alts) Wire GuidelinesSay, for the hell of it... For every 150 amps of charging current, you run 2 runs of 1/0. One power, one ground. I run isolated grounds for piece of mind. Knowing that your grounds couldn't possibly get better than they are is nice. Run Oxygen free copper wire. Amperage Draw: Don't beat yourself up over getting the math perfect. Call 1500 watts 150 amps. Call 3000 Watts 300 amps. So on and so forth. You'll always be safe doing this, as the current draw per 10 watts @ over 12 volts is a little less than 1 amp. You're basically adding in a little 'overkill' with this method. When it comes to batteries, get the best.... and follow their guidelines. It'll put you at a great starting point. If you need more after following their chart, well... you can always adjust for that. Alternators: Half your system's current draw. With the additional batteries that you're running, there's no need to have a 1:1 ratio of charging current supplied. Bass notes, unless in a competition setting, aren't consistent. That being said... If you're running 6kw... I think you'd be alright running 3 D3100s and a 300 amp alt. You may not be steady at 15v, but the real goal is to keep it above 12 volts when it comes to daily. Competing is a whole different ballpark. EDIT: There's always a little more to it, but this is like the spark notes version of it. I can't make it more understandable for someone who is just beginning to learn the concepts. You shouldn't have to pull a calculator out to know a ballpark range of where you're at and what you need No need to make it any easier, makes perfect sense to me! I just emailed Mechman about a price on alternators and batteries. Thanks for everyone's help. It's making a bit more sense to me now. Quote Facebook Page: S99Creations 2006 F250 Lariat Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoopdogg Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Just too add on to this is there anything special you have to do to run 16 volt deep cycle batteries? Or higher I guess. Looking to get an DD M4 AND trying to give here as much as I can. Quote 03 Wrangler Sahara 6" lift (5 inch suspension 1 inch body) 20" Boss Rims with 33" tires Front and back bumper guards 4 3/4 ton winch Kenne Bell supercharger with cold air Full Exhaust Pioneer mvh-p8200bt Pioneer Components COMING SOON... 3 12" Kicker CVT's RF T1000.1BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackedout Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Just too add on to this is there anything special you have to do to run 16 volt deep cycle batteries? Or higher I guess. Looking to get an DD M4 AND trying to give here as much as I can. There's a lot you need to do. You can't just throw 16v batteries in your car and have a '16v' system... If that's what you're asking. Quote Trunk Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoopdogg Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Well yeah i kinda figured but never looked into it. Now that I'm getting into higher end installs its sounding like a better and better option. What all do you have to do and is it worth it? Quote 03 Wrangler Sahara 6" lift (5 inch suspension 1 inch body) 20" Boss Rims with 33" tires Front and back bumper guards 4 3/4 ton winch Kenne Bell supercharger with cold air Full Exhaust Pioneer mvh-p8200bt Pioneer Components COMING SOON... 3 12" Kicker CVT's RF T1000.1BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Please tell me how it is sounding like a better and better option to you? Quote Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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