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[Bigsix]

Bobby, 10k through a can ain't shit now-a-days. Call YHM, and ask them about their 5.56 Phantom with 80k through it with no real loss in performance. Yes, I said 80,000.

[LT.Smoke]

Bobby, 10k through a can ain't shit now-a-days. Call YHM, and ask them about their 5.56 Phantom with 80k through it with no real loss in performance. Yes, I said 80,000.

Ya i know bro 10k was just an example of how rugged the new age cans are... Im sure they will outlast 80K... Hell the way i see it the cans will probably outlast us

[ROLEXrifleman]

Not to be the odd man out, but everything has a finite lifespam.................... EVERYTHING

[ROLEXrifleman]

And for the record, there has to be a clarification when saying lifespan.

If by lifespan you mean the amount of time it takes b4 an item is no longer servicable then a sup. should have several 10's of thousands of rounds b4 it goes dead. The major factor contributing to this is the material teh blast baffle is made out of and 2nd what type of round is being shot out of what barrel length.

I can use my OSW SBR like a plasma cutter and destroy any sup in less than 200 rounds with it. On the other hand i can get 100K out of a sup whos baffle stack has a blast baffle made of SS or Titanium using a pistol caliber SS round. Gotta match the tools up properly.

Now noise reductionis someting that will deteriorate over time and requires cleaning of the baffle stack in order to get all teh crude out and get your internal volume back. Think of the sup as a speaker box built to spec. As you fire your gun you leave behind traces of carbon and sut. This takes up space in teh can needed transfer the sound energy into heat, teh less space available to do this the louder your can gets.

So if you shrink teh air space down little by little in your sub box, what happens? sounds liek shit.

I'm real picky, so when someone brings up a topic I like to break it down all teh way.

[Bigsix]

Well said rolex. I just didnt feel like going into the ins and outs of it. And like I said, dude that says he only get a couple thou before his cans are whooped is abusing his shit or unknowingly doing something wrong...

[8ight]

I only brought up SS ammo because you mentioned it, I was agreeing with you hence "is a must" instead of "ya bro liek you need subsonicz!" I was surprised that for once someone knew what it was. As far as the lifespan that's pretty awesome, any drawbacks to such long lasting designs?

[Bigsix]

I only brought up SS ammo because you mentioned it, I was agreeing with you hence "is a must" instead of "ya bro liek you need subsonicz!" I was surprised that for once someone knew what it was. As far as the lifespan that's pretty awesome, any drawbacks to such long lasting designs?

It's cool man.. In my opinion, no, no real downside to a long lasting design. Albeit, maintenance is important, as well as proper use... Anything can break sooner than it should if not used correctly. Perhaps the only drawback would be a higher initial cost to get into, but then again, buy once = cry once.. one expensive suppressor is most likely cheaper than 2 so so ones, so you would still be better off in the long run. Our cans arent going to be super exotic, or made from crazy materials, but we are still expecting them to have no problem outlasting 2 or 3 barrels, which again, not many people shoot that much, so realistically our cans should last a lifetime. I am still learning about suppressor design, and so is the owner/head builder, but we feel we have some very nice designs in the works, and once our paperwork shows up, we will be build a couple different styles in the calibers we are planning to offer, and then lots of testing (ie shooting) to check longevity and which design we feel to be the best to offer. R and D and field testing shit has got to be the best part of this job... At this time, I elieve we are planning on offering 5.56, 7.62, 9mm, and .22lr.. with the ability to build others in the near future. Things are slow going as we dont have a huuuuge budget and have been so swamped with build AK's and gunsmith work, but the ball is rolling.

Hopefully next week I am going to have time to start building my wife's AK... should be fun, going to do a nice lightweight, wood furniture, classic looking rifle for her, keep it simple and nice and light.. aiming for ~ 6.5 lbs fully loaded and ready to shoot. It looks we are caught up on the first batch of AK's we sold, so now I can build more toys for me. Im wrapping up a nice Para p13 build for a friend tonight, has a few minor mods, and a wicked duracoat job, sprayed down a handful of ak assemblies last night in matte black (over a parkerized finished) and my G17 might get a bitchin duracoat job this weekend as well... maybe Ill quit being such a bitch and get some pics taken and start a thread finally. Once we ave a few more things dialed in and the web site is closer to done, Ill actually tell ya'll the name of the shop so you can check us out on FB and the web.

[8ight]

Sounds awesome, I'd love some gun porn if you can be bothered to make a thread. If you could build an AK that is 6.5lbs loaded that still looks stock (or close to) I'd pay good money for it since I was on a mission to lighten up one of my SKSes but couldn't really do it without getting too tacticool so I settled on a new barrel. Any plans for a .45 ACP suppressor? Seems like it would be a hit with all the 1911 owners everywhere on the damned earth, and .45 is a pretty low velocity round by its very nature. Also wondering how duracoat holds up compared to a traditional blued finish? I've never seen a duracoated gun in person and actually held/used it.

Edited August 24, 2012 by 8ight

[LT.Smoke]

Sounds awesome, I'd love some gun porn if you can be bothered to make a thread. If you could build an AK that is 6.5lbs loaded that still looks stock (or close to) I'd pay good money for it since I was on a mission to lighten up one of my SKSes but couldn't really do it without getting too tacticool so I settled on a new barrel. Any plans for a .45 ACP suppressor? Seems like it would be a hit with all the 1911 owners everywhere on the damned earth, and .45 is a pretty low velocity round by its very nature. Also wondering how duracoat holds up compared to a traditional blued finish? I've never seen a duracoated gun in person and actually held/used it.

Duracoat is fucking bulletproof if done right... Few of my buds have duracoated weapons and the finish is bad ass and will take abuse

[LT.Smoke]

I only brought up SS ammo because you mentioned it, I was agreeing with you hence "is a must" instead of "ya bro liek you need subsonicz!" I was surprised that for once someone knew what it was. As far as the lifespan that's pretty awesome, any drawbacks to such long lasting designs?

It's cool man.. In my opinion, no, no real downside to a long lasting design. Albeit, maintenance is important, as well as proper use... Anything can break sooner than it should if not used correctly. Perhaps the only drawback would be a higher initial cost to get into, but then again, buy once = cry once.. one expensive suppressor is most likely cheaper than 2 so so ones, so you would still be better off in the long run. Our cans arent going to be super exotic, or made from crazy materials, but we are still expecting them to have no problem outlasting 2 or 3 barrels, which again, not many people shoot that much, so realistically our cans should last a lifetime. I am still learning about suppressor design, and so is the owner/head builder, but we feel we have some very nice designs in the works, and once our paperwork shows up, we will be build a couple different styles in the calibers we are planning to offer, and then lots of testing (ie shooting) to check longevity and which design we feel to be the best to offer. R and D and field testing shit has got to be the best part of this job... At this time, I elieve we are planning on offering 5.56, 7.62, 9mm, and .22lr.. with the ability to build others in the near future. Things are slow going as we dont have a huuuuge budget and have been so swamped with build AK's and gunsmith work, but the ball is rolling.

Hopefully next week I am going to have time to start building my wife's AK... should be fun, going to do a nice lightweight, wood furniture, classic looking rifle for her, keep it simple and nice and light.. aiming for ~ 6.5 lbs fully loaded and ready to shoot. It looks we are caught up on the first batch of AK's we sold, so now I can build more toys for me. Im wrapping up a nice Para p13 build for a friend tonight, has a few minor mods, and a wicked duracoat job, sprayed down a handful of ak assemblies last night in matte black (over a parkerized finished) and my G17 might get a bitchin duracoat job this weekend as well... maybe Ill quit being such a bitch and get some pics taken and start a thread finally. Once we ave a few more things dialed in and the web site is closer to done, Ill actually tell ya'll the name of the shop so you can check us out on FB and the web.

Lemme know when you decide to do a thread man... I will pin it for you so it stays available