armykyle1 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) If the battery rests at 11v, then yes it's a bad idea. Just because you dropped down to 11.5-11.4 doesn't mean your battery is dead by any means. It will recover... I'm getting at this amp is more suited for 12v use than more others since isn't not optimized for higher voltage. I'm not talking about running 10-9v.... Please tell us what employee you talked to, I want to know his name lol. If you honestly think an M4a is an AQ3500, you're flat out retarded. I honestly mean that too. M4a's are known to clamp 8-9k if you can keep rise low enough. Saying a AQ3500 is an M4a is like saying a DC5k is the same as a DC10k lol Edited December 27, 2012 by armykyle1 Quote TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalilac619 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 The DD M4 is essentially the same as the AQ 3500.1 the DD M4a is the same board as the NS-1 and is rated 5k+12v and 7k at 14.4 Quote 2000 Suburban 6 runs of 2/0 12 timpano audio mids,6 timpana audio tweets and 1 timpano compression horn per door 8 banks of blue Maxwells + 260ah of Yin Long LTOs 2 370 Amp Autotech Alts mids amps 2 Crescendo Skyway 3ks Tweet amp Crossfire 2000.4 sub amp: 4 Crossfire XT 8ks Subs: 8 18 in Crossfires in a 4th order Best Scores at events… 161.6@38hz DBdrag sealed on the dash… 162.54 outlaw…161.14 Meca headrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckvr4 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Electrical says alot, when rusty had the 7 kinetik 16v he was seeing roughly 6500watts per 9.0, once he switched to the 12 Xs xp1000s he was then seeing close to 11k per 9.0. hey jeff , since you have had both 9k and 10k , both on a 12v system. what numbers did u clamp out of each ? Quote 05 f150 4 18'' DC lvl6 2 DC AUDIO 9.0ks 161.3 @ 44HZ build log here96 tahoe http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/160522-8-18xls2-dc-100k4th-order/page-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corona_jeff Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) If the battery rests at 11v, then yes it's a bad idea. Just because you dropped down to 11.5-11.4 doesn't mean your battery is dead by any means. It will recover... I'm getting at this amp is more suited for 12v use than more others since isn't not optimized for higher voltage. I'm not talking about running 10-9v.... Please tell us what employee you talked to, I want to know his name lol. If you honestly think an M4a is an AQ3500, you're flat out retarded. I honestly mean that too. M4a's are known to clamp 8-9k if you can keep rise low enough. Saying a AQ3500 is an M4a is like saying a DC5k is the same as a DC10k lol Kyle first off, you funny calling me retarded, as I've forgotten more then you will ever know about car audio, and I mean that. Second I wanna say his name was brad, I believe but I really dont remember, he opened his shop back up in OK city shortly after leaving dd, after all there change stuff. Really I can care less what you think, when you do something that impresses me enough to value your option then I'll ask. But carry on with what ever you think you know. Electrical says alot, when rusty had the 7 kinetik 16v he was seeing roughly 6500watts per 9.0, once he switched to the 12 Xs xp1000s he was then seeing close to 11k per 9.0. hey jeff , since you have had both 9k and 10k , both on a 12v system. what numbers did u clamp out of each ? Heck, I've never had the 9.0s, I had the American bass 1100.1 which is very similar to the 9.0, the most I remember seeing out of those was 12-13k rising above 3ohm strapped. The only clamp I have done on the 10.0s what 15k strapped rising to 2.8ohms dropping to 13.2. The 10.0s however seem to make more power and is alot easier on my electrical fully tilt. Full tilt bass boxing runs tho it still will drop to 11.8 with the engine tacked at 2k Edited December 27, 2012 by corona_jeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armykyle1 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) The DD M4 is essentially the same as the AQ 3500.1 the DD M4a is the same board as the NS-1 and is rated 5k+12v and 7k at 14.4 where the fuck did you get that from? Lets see here M4 27.625L x 9.13W x 2.5H dual inputs NS1 ] 12.20(W) x 2.68(H) x 27.56(L) inches triple inputs [/font] AQ3500 25.875in (L) x 9.5in (W) x 2.625in (H) 2" shorter[/font] Go look at gut pics and see where the 2" is missing. I've handled both the AQ and DD and they are very different lol. Edited December 27, 2012 by armykyle1 Quote TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armykyle1 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 The DD M4 is essentially the same as the AQ 3500.1 the DD M4a is the same board as the NS-1 and is rated 5k+12v and 7k at 14.4 where the fuck did you get that from? Lets see here M4 27.625L x 9.13W x 2.5H dual inputs NS1 ] 12.20(W) x 2.68(H) x 27.56(L) inches triple inputs [/font] AQ3500 25.875in (L) x 9.5in (W) x 2.625in (H) 2" shorter[/font] Go look at gut pics and see where the 2" is missing. I've handled both the AQ and DD and they are very different lol. fuck fixing this post... Quote TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armykyle1 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 If the battery rests at 11v, then yes it's a bad idea. Just because you dropped down to 11.5-11.4 doesn't mean your battery is dead by any means. It will recover... I'm getting at this amp is more suited for 12v use than more others since isn't not optimized for higher voltage. I'm not talking about running 10-9v.... Please tell us what employee you talked to, I want to know his name lol. If you honestly think an M4a is an AQ3500, you're flat out retarded. I honestly mean that too. M4a's are known to clamp 8-9k if you can keep rise low enough. Saying a AQ3500 is an M4a is like saying a DC5k is the same as a DC10k lol Kyle first off, you funny calling me retarded, as I've forgotten more then you will ever know about car audio, and I mean that. Second I wanna say his name was brad, I believe but I really dont remember, he opened his shop back up in OK city shortly after leaving dd, after all there change stuff. Really I can care less what you think, when you do something that impresses me enough to value your option then I'll ask. But carry on with what ever you think you know. Electrical says alot, when rusty had the 7 kinetik 16v he was seeing roughly 6500watts per 9.0, once he switched to the 12 Xs xp1000s he was then seeing close to 11k per 9.0. hey jeff , since you have had both 9k and 10k , both on a 12v system. what numbers did u clamp out of each ? Heck, I've never had the 9.0s, I had the American bass 1100.1 which is very similar to the 9.0, the most I remember seeing out of those was 12-13k rising above 3ohm strapped. The only clamp I have done on the 10.0s what 15k strapped rising to 2.8ohms dropping to 13.2. The 10.0s however seem to make more power and is alot easier on my electrical fully tilt. Full tilt bass boxing runs tho it still will drop to 11.8 with the engine tacked at 2k If the shoe fits, wear it. Why don't look into the amps instead of talking out of someone else's ass. They're clearly not the same amp, maybe that's one of the things you've forgotten. I'm not claiming to be a know it all, never have, never will. But I do know this. Like I said, if you believe that, you're retarded and wrong. Just do simple research on it. I'll look into thia Brad character too... I've talked to a few people at DD and never talked to a Brad, normally Kevin... Sorry if you think I'm putting you down, but you're wrong on this... Quote TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalilac619 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) I've owned both amps to there sugar tits the M4 and the M4a are 2 completely different amps M4a board is similar to the NS-1 and the DD Z1a I'm still running, the the original M4 yes M4 without the a is similar to the AQ3500.1 they just rereleased the M4 with slight updates for more power ....your welcome Edited December 27, 2012 by kalilac619 1 Quote 2000 Suburban 6 runs of 2/0 12 timpano audio mids,6 timpana audio tweets and 1 timpano compression horn per door 8 banks of blue Maxwells + 260ah of Yin Long LTOs 2 370 Amp Autotech Alts mids amps 2 Crescendo Skyway 3ks Tweet amp Crossfire 2000.4 sub amp: 4 Crossfire XT 8ks Subs: 8 18 in Crossfires in a 4th order Best Scores at events… 161.6@38hz DBdrag sealed on the dash… 162.54 outlaw…161.14 Meca headrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armykyle1 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I've owned both amps to there sugar tits the M4 and the M4a are 2 completely different amps M4a board is similar to the NS-1 and the DD Z1a I'm still running, the the original M4 yes M4 without the a is similar to the AQ3500.1 they just rereleased the M4 with slight updates for more power ....your welcome They may have gotten M4 and M4a mixed up. That makes sense. Quote TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalilac619 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I've owned both amps to there sugar tits the M4 and the M4a are 2 completely different amps M4a board is similar to the NS-1 and the DD Z1a I'm still running, the the original M4 yes M4 without the a is similar to the AQ3500.1 they just rereleased the M4 with slight updates for more power ....your welcome They may have gotten M4 and M4a mixed up. That makes sense. I could see that happening Quote 2000 Suburban 6 runs of 2/0 12 timpano audio mids,6 timpana audio tweets and 1 timpano compression horn per door 8 banks of blue Maxwells + 260ah of Yin Long LTOs 2 370 Amp Autotech Alts mids amps 2 Crescendo Skyway 3ks Tweet amp Crossfire 2000.4 sub amp: 4 Crossfire XT 8ks Subs: 8 18 in Crossfires in a 4th order Best Scores at events… 161.6@38hz DBdrag sealed on the dash… 162.54 outlaw…161.14 Meca headrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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