KiKaZz74 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yes but I'm also paying atleast 3x the cost... My SPL to SQ Build Log Vehicle:1997 Dodge Dakota Ext Cab 4x4 2009 Dodge Journey SXT5.2L V8 Magnum 3.5L V6 Stock AltEquipment: Headunit- Alpine CDE-147BT Mids/Highs Amp- JL Audio G6600 Class AB 6 Channel Sub Amp- Hifonics BRZ1700.1D @ 2 Ohms Taramps DSP3000.1D Sub- Hertz Hi Energy 12" HX300D SounDrive SDA3 12 Tweeters- Rockford Fosgate Power Series Silk Domes Hertz Hi-Energy Mids- Dayton Audio Reference 4" Full Range Drivers Midbass- Silver Flute 6.5" Hertz Hi-Energy 6.5" Processor- MiniDSP 2x4 RCA- 6 channels of SounDrive HF series Wire- EB Flex 2/0 -Member of Team SounDrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitaaa Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 At what voltage tho? People have claimed close to rated around 14v. At 12v its that because they weren't rated at that to start. lets put it this way they are both run at 14 volts and you have a stealth electrical and get no voltage drop lets say the brutus does do rated power at 1ohm.. after rise it goes down to maybe and lets say 1800 watts the fosgate at 3200 watts after rise you will see close to rated maybe 2200 watts thats a big difference and if you get the bdcp line you can get even more power You're comparing a 2400w @14.4 budget amp to a VERY expensive 2500 @12 amp. $230 vs $950 12v vs. 14.4 (one amp is built much larger) Your argument is invalid. 2007 M/T Honda Civic Coupe EX (4) Sundown Audio X-8's (2) Ampere Audio 3800.1's (3) Stinger SPV-44 Batteries (1) Mechman 240 3:1 Ratio 4th order sealed from the trunkTEAM NWSPLBest termlab scores to date in Honda trunk:151.7db legal (official) IASCA trunk 3 classBest termlab scores to date in my walled Subie:152.9db legal (unofficial) IASCA advanced 2 class155db outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifes a BOX Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 so im gonna pay x3 as much for an extra 500 watts @ 14.4 with your "high end" amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yes but I'm also paying atleast 3x the cost... im not saying the amp is bad but you are not getting what you are told you are getting. its all im saying.. i ran mine and never protected or failed me but i felt it wasnt giving the power it claimed my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiKaZz74 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Thank you nikita! What I've been saying basically just not as blunt. Thank you sir! My SPL to SQ Build Log Vehicle:1997 Dodge Dakota Ext Cab 4x4 2009 Dodge Journey SXT5.2L V8 Magnum 3.5L V6 Stock AltEquipment: Headunit- Alpine CDE-147BT Mids/Highs Amp- JL Audio G6600 Class AB 6 Channel Sub Amp- Hifonics BRZ1700.1D @ 2 Ohms Taramps DSP3000.1D Sub- Hertz Hi Energy 12" HX300D SounDrive SDA3 12 Tweeters- Rockford Fosgate Power Series Silk Domes Hertz Hi-Energy Mids- Dayton Audio Reference 4" Full Range Drivers Midbass- Silver Flute 6.5" Hertz Hi-Energy 6.5" Processor- MiniDSP 2x4 RCA- 6 channels of SounDrive HF series Wire- EB Flex 2/0 -Member of Team SounDrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 At what voltage tho? People have claimed close to rated around 14v. At 12v its that because they weren't rated at that to start. lets put it this way they are both run at 14 volts and you have a stealth electrical and get no voltage drop lets say the brutus does do rated power at 1ohm.. after rise it goes down to maybe and lets say 1800 watts the fosgate at 3200 watts after rise you will see close to rated maybe 2200 watts thats a big difference and if you get the bdcp line you can get even more power You're comparing a 2400w @14.4 budget amp to a VERY expensive 2500 @12 amp. $230 vs $950 12v vs. 14.4 (one amp is built much larger) Your argument is invalid. the brz is $389 you need 2 to get what a fosgate gives you.. it puts it up hand to hand when you need more batteries and a bigger alt to run 2 amps that are power hungry and are not as stable as the fosgate.. lets not use the fosgate and talk crescendo.. $479 and its more stable and could be run at .5 ohms and its not as power hungry and has cleaner signal my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitaaa Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yes but I'm also paying atleast 3x the cost... im not saying the amp is bad but you are not getting what you are told you are getting. its all im saying.. i ran mine and never protected or failed me but i felt it wasnt giving the power it claimed Gee, the ear-o-meter is getting more an more accurate these days. Truth is guy, I'm not trying to jump you. I just feel like the point you're trying to put forth has no logic backing it. 97.9% of the troll in this thread is useless gibberish with no real hard data other than John (kinda). You can't make a rash generalization that the Brutus series is inferior due to the fact that it doesn't compare to a much better built and more expensive amplifier. I'm out. Just thought I could try and sort out some of the stuff going on here. 2007 M/T Honda Civic Coupe EX (4) Sundown Audio X-8's (2) Ampere Audio 3800.1's (3) Stinger SPV-44 Batteries (1) Mechman 240 3:1 Ratio 4th order sealed from the trunkTEAM NWSPLBest termlab scores to date in Honda trunk:151.7db legal (official) IASCA trunk 3 classBest termlab scores to date in my walled Subie:152.9db legal (unofficial) IASCA advanced 2 class155db outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitaaa Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 At what voltage tho? People have claimed close to rated around 14v. At 12v its that because they weren't rated at that to start. lets put it this way they are both run at 14 volts and you have a stealth electrical and get no voltage drop lets say the brutus does do rated power at 1ohm.. after rise it goes down to maybe and lets say 1800 watts the fosgate at 3200 watts after rise you will see close to rated maybe 2200 watts thats a big difference and if you get the bdcp line you can get even more power You're comparing a 2400w @14.4 budget amp to a VERY expensive 2500 @12 amp. $230 vs $950 12v vs. 14.4 (one amp is built much larger) Your argument is invalid. the brz is $389 you need 2 to get what a fosgate gives you.. it puts it up hand to hand when you need more batteries and a bigger alt to run 2 amps that are power hungry and are not as stable as the fosgate.. lets not use the fosgate and talk crescendo.. $479 and its more stable and could be run at .5 ohms and its not as power hungry and has cleaner signal Try again buddy. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_23550_Hifonics-Brutus-BRZ2400.1D.html But no for real, peace. 2007 M/T Honda Civic Coupe EX (4) Sundown Audio X-8's (2) Ampere Audio 3800.1's (3) Stinger SPV-44 Batteries (1) Mechman 240 3:1 Ratio 4th order sealed from the trunkTEAM NWSPLBest termlab scores to date in Honda trunk:151.7db legal (official) IASCA trunk 3 classBest termlab scores to date in my walled Subie:152.9db legal (unofficial) IASCA advanced 2 class155db outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yes but I'm also paying atleast 3x the cost... im not saying the amp is bad but you are not getting what you are told you are getting. its all im saying.. i ran mine and never protected or failed me but i felt it wasnt giving the power it claimed Gee, the ear-o-meter is getting more an more accurate these days. Truth is guy, I'm not trying to jump you. I just feel like the point you're trying to put forth has no logic backing it. 97.9% of the troll in this thread is useless gibberish with no real hard data other than John (kinda). You can't make a rash generalization that the Brutus series is inferior due to the fact that it doesn't compare to a much better built and more expensive amplifier. I'm out. Just thought I could try and sort out some of the stuff going on here. like i said i ran it then bought another 2500 rms amp and noticed a big difference. i got louder in many ways even broken parts off my car.. my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 you can try again http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hifonics-Brz2400-1d-Class-D-Monoblock-Car-Amp-Amplifier-Brz24001d-Brz2400-/350672163141?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a5b09145&_uhb=1 it could be cause they are trying to push it out.. to start getting the new ones in.. i believe all companies do that my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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