Desousa93 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 so say I bought an AGM battery with the big 3 upgrade on a 120 amp or bigger alternator would I be able to buy 2 supercapacitors like the ones @banginhummer posted would that work on a 2k RMS system? New Build in the Making 1999 Infiniti I30 Limited if you break a rule and argue with n8 your going to get banned. suspended if your lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 This is the simplest kind. Those boxes are resistors, and the symbols below are capacitors. Essentially all it is, is each capacitor has it's own bleeder resistor wired to it. Idea is that A. capacitors of a higher voltage will bleed drain slightly faster than the ones with a lower voltage. Bringing them together. And B. will bleed off power faster than the capacitor's own leakage rate. To calculate what resistance you need, take the leakage current of your capacitor listed on the manufacturer's website, multiply it by 10, then use ohm's law of ohms=volts/amps. Where volts is what you expect each capacitor to be charged to, and amps is the leakage current multiplied by 10. You'll want to use good resistors for this. You can get 1% tolerance ones from Mouser. The typical 10% tolerance resistors you get from radioshack don't quite cut it ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 This is the simplest kind. Those boxes are resistors, and the symbols below are capacitors. Essentially all it is, is each capacitor has it's own bleeder resistor wired to it. Idea is that A. capacitors of a higher voltage will bleed drain slightly faster than the ones with a lower voltage. Bringing them together. And B. will bleed off power faster than the capacitor's own leakage rate. To calculate what resistance you need, take the leakage current of your capacitor listed on the manufacturer's website, multiply it by 10, then use ohm's law of ohms=volts/amps. Where volts is what you expect each capacitor to be charged to, and amps is the leakage current multiplied by 10. You'll want to use good resistors for this. You can get 1% tolerance ones from Mouser. The typical 10% tolerance resistors you get from radioshack don't quite cut it you have a balancing circuit on yours? if so what values did you use? and is that the circuit diagram exactly? they handle the amperage well? Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 so say I bought an AGM battery with the big 3 upgrade on a 120 amp or bigger alternator would I be able to buy 2 supercapacitors like the ones @banginhummer posted would that work on a 2k RMS system? Personally I'd spend the extra couple bucks and get these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maxwell-BCAP0010-7-Ultracapacitor-Surge-Booster-assembly-/370937036668?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item565d91ff7c ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desousa93 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 but do you think that's enough for 2k? if I did spend the extra $$ on those? New Build in the Making 1999 Infiniti I30 Limited if you break a rule and argue with n8 your going to get banned. suspended if your lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 This is the simplest kind. Those boxes are resistors, and the symbols below are capacitors. Essentially all it is, is each capacitor has it's own bleeder resistor wired to it. Idea is that A. capacitors of a higher voltage will bleed drain slightly faster than the ones with a lower voltage. Bringing them together. And B. will bleed off power faster than the capacitor's own leakage rate. To calculate what resistance you need, take the leakage current of your capacitor listed on the manufacturer's website, multiply it by 10, then use ohm's law of ohms=volts/amps. Where volts is what you expect each capacitor to be charged to, and amps is the leakage current multiplied by 10. You'll want to use good resistors for this. You can get 1% tolerance ones from Mouser. The typical 10% tolerance resistors you get from radioshack don't quite cut it you have a balancing circuit on yours? if so what values did you use? and is that the circuit diagram exactly? they handle the amperage well? I have 50 ohm 10 watt resistors on mine. They only need to dissipate a couple milliwatts of heat ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 but do you think that's enough for 2k? if I did spend the extra $$ on those? They should work really well for 2k IMO ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 This is the simplest kind. Those boxes are resistors, and the symbols below are capacitors. Essentially all it is, is each capacitor has it's own bleeder resistor wired to it. Idea is that A. capacitors of a higher voltage will bleed drain slightly faster than the ones with a lower voltage. Bringing them together. And B. will bleed off power faster than the capacitor's own leakage rate. To calculate what resistance you need, take the leakage current of your capacitor listed on the manufacturer's website, multiply it by 10, then use ohm's law of ohms=volts/amps. Where volts is what you expect each capacitor to be charged to, and amps is the leakage current multiplied by 10. You'll want to use good resistors for this. You can get 1% tolerance ones from Mouser. The typical 10% tolerance resistors you get from radioshack don't quite cut it you have a balancing circuit on yours? if so what values did you use? and is that the circuit diagram exactly?they handle the amperage well? I have 50 ohm 10 watt resistors on mine. They only need to dissipate a couple milliwatts of heat so for each cap you have 1 50 ohm 10 watt resistor 1% tolerance in parallel with it? and it goes across the cap positive to negative? Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Correct ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Correct http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Arcol/HS10-50R-1/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtlubZbdhIBIHhz%2f34AZ7LzrS8%252bYvKeh1Y%3d http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Dale/RS01050R00FE73/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtlubZbdhIBIGo76SrG4wpqeEmbqSl%2f4mE%3d http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Dale/RE65G50R0C02/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtlubZbdhIBIBMpzZxKIAH4dAHCttqtPMw%3d any of these? and do you have any other balancing circuitry? or is that it? Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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