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that would be wonderful....thank you!!

i am doing some playing around with them yet as well.

just being new to so much of the technical aspects and tools i have a ton to learn. looking at some of the graphs on isd i just dont always understand what they are telling me yet.

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^ Now you have some real help, I was just filling in until Krakin showed up...

yes, he.....joe x and clean sierra all seem to be quite knowledgeable

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As you can see the ported version of the sub does have a deeper reach into the sub-bass all the way into infrasonic notes. This however is not accounting for any cabin gain whatsoever. So expect the low end of the sealed enclosure to be more appealing in reality.

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The downside to the extended bass-shelf is the delay it takes to create those lower notes.

For reference lets take an echo. The human ear notices a sound as an echo around a 30 ms delay.

The vented enclosure is in that territory once you start nearing the lower 30's. This will really hurt the lower acoustics, kicks, and other string instruments.

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I also did my best of trying to estimate a nice temperature and what I expected to be some normal humidity while on the road.

Also be away that a 3 dB difference in level is barely if at all noticeable to the human ear. 6 dB is getting closer, while 10 dB is noticed as close to twice as loud or quieter.

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Krakin's Home Dipole Project

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370

Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist?

I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . .

What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself

but what has drawn your attention

in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums

An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space

Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears,

thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener.

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No problem man.

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Krakin's Home Dipole Project

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370

Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist?

I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . .

What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself

but what has drawn your attention

in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums

An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space

Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears,

thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener.

Posted

just out of curiosity, if my musical preference was say hip/rap would the ported have worked well and been a good design?

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It comes down to a lot of personal preference and what sub you are using.

In hip hop/rap the base lines are normally not changing as fast as metal or other instrumental genres. It is normally about a single note over a period of a few seconds or longer.

Also you stated that you like SQ a little more so I suggested sealed to have you experience a "tight" base.

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Krakin's Home Dipole Project

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370

Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist?

I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . .

What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself

but what has drawn your attention

in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums

An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space

Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears,

thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener.

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