Karlswinslow Posted July 15, 2014 Report Posted July 15, 2014 before i start, I'm a novice in the beginning stages of learning about real audio setups.. used to the old regular ported/sealed boxes from back in the day and that was all.... anywho, i have a hifonics brutus elite BE2500.1D.. specs: 1ohm - 1 x 2500 // 2ohm - 1 x 1700 I'm aware the amp will be under powering 2 level 4s but had a talk with someone into car audio and said i wouldn't really notice the -300 watts.. true? i want a 4th order mainly to reduce trunk rattle and i want that clean, flowing, pounding bass you can feel from a far.. can i get that from 2 12"s? some people are saying 2 10"s can do that for me.. but i thought 12s would be more efficient for my goals due to size but as i said, I'm new so i could be wrong.. my trunk & space isn't a problem, i don't use it and the car isn't that much a daily so i could use however much space i need. does level 4s do good in 4th orders? port would be in the rear deck towards the back glass. also i have around 8/850 $ to play with on subs if anyone has any recommendations that would prove better than my idea lol.. if it helps i play a lot of reggae and the reason i was told not to go sundown was because they drop too low for the music i play... (not a VS. convo just want some experienced dudes to chime in lol) i heard DC and not sundown so yeah... lol thanks in advance
DylanBunch Posted July 15, 2014 Report Posted July 15, 2014 From things I've heard id buy sundown over dc. An X series sub in a 4th order on that amp would be perfect, they play really well in 4th orders. And just because they CAN play super low doesn't necessarily mean the high end will be sacrificed cause that's the whole point of 4th orders. And also if it does play really low that doesn't mean you have to listen to music that low lol if I were in your shoes I'd be looking at Sundown X 10s or 12s 2006 Ford Explorer 2 Team AA/Sundown 15s 6th order Ct Sounds 7k 4 PRV Mr500 8s Rockford p1000-2 Team Subsonic Lows
Karlswinslow Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Posted July 16, 2014 at first i wanted those! the sundown look so beefy, but i read the page about it and this has me stumped.. "Due to the extremely low level of suspension induced distortion the typical "punchy" upper-bass peak in the 40s-60s Hz range that occurs with traditional woofers when pushed to high excursion does not occur. " anyone can clear that up for me or does that mean what I'm guessing? i need that bass note that'll hit a lot of different genres perfect. basically a daily setup..
Wood Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 at first i wanted those! the sundown look so beefy, but i read the page about it and this has me stumped.. "Due to the extremely low level of suspension induced distortion the typical "punchy" upper-bass peak in the 40s-60s Hz range that occurs with traditional woofers when pushed to high excursion does not occur. " anyone can clear that up for me or does that mean what I'm guessing? i need that bass note that'll hit a lot of different genres perfect. basically a daily setup.. They are making a "SPL" cone for the X and ZV4 series that are meant to give traditional sound if thats what you prefer... you would have to contact them directly but I've heard talk over on caco! it was the reason I initially veered away from the X series because I prefer traditional as I don't listen to decaf all day everyday... If you go X series just contact Sundown through email and have them build you one with the spl cone, i dont believe it will be anymore expensive then buying it with the mega roll surround 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346
Karlswinslow Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Posted July 19, 2014 sorry for the late reply... so can someone just clear up what the "spl cone" would be doing for me? to be honest, the music i listen to such as reggae etc doesn't drop so low that everyone looks like they use the x series subs for.. but id love to have that at my dispense. but thats my whole reasoning to go after the level 4s cus I'm pretty sure they're an all around sub (correct me if I'm wrong) any other takers? lol completely lost at what i should go for...
Tecomah Posted July 19, 2014 Report Posted July 19, 2014 It would make the x sound more normal on higher hertz bass notes from what I understand. 750??! Yeah, fuck that. Fuck this website, fuck SMD, fuck Steve, fuck all of his butt buddy mods, and their couches.^ DON'T BE A DICK LIKE THIS GUY Team Subsonic Lows
afrakes Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 What's considered the drop off point for x's then? Around 45 hz? 50? 60? Vehicle: 2014 GMC Sierra 2500HD WT Head Unit: Pioneer DEH- Mids/Highs: Focal Integration ISC 165’s (front) Subs/Amps: TBD
Karlswinslow Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Posted July 22, 2014 i wanna know that too^ also, is everyone telling me to grow away from DC for any reason or do you guys just favor sundown? spoke to a local dealer for both and he said for me to go with level 4s. they play all around and give me that deep bass. any thoughts?
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