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Guy takes forever, but thats the basic way which works for most stuff before you have to start manually playing with wave forms and such. He also goes a bit further with the multiple tracks but it was either that link or an old guy..

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Any time you have have a power wire next to your frame put some rubber hosing (or cut up an innertube) around it. The wire is bound to wiggle (due to driving or flex) and the casing will eventually wear through.

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Guy takes forever, but thats the basic way which works for most stuff before you have to start manually playing with wave forms and such. He also goes a bit further with the multiple tracks but it was either that link or an old guy..

Lol

He didn't do shit to the track

All he did was make the wave smaller

That's the same as instead of listening at volume 30 now you listen to at volume 29

and all the read that showed up might not be a clip signal. It's just higher than 0db and just cause it's higher than 0db doesn't mean it's clipped

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Its clipped when processed by your head unit/mp3 player/whatever you are using to play, which is as bad as a square wave as it is essentially the same effect in the end.

As to the lessened volume - No shit sherlock, that is the best way to reduce source clipping on a poorly mastered source which is what we are dealing with in this thread. We are not dealing with professionally mastered audio here (not to say professional audio is very well done these days with all the loudness increasing happening).

Also, there happens to be a handy tool which uses interpolation to reconstruct the wave forms of more destructive clipping. Its not perfect and you're going to bitch about it because you like to complain more than offer help or constructive criticism, but here is anyways as the OP might find it helps him: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/clip_fix.html

You still need to use normalization and track amplification to use Clip Fix properly btw.

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Any time you have have a power wire next to your frame put some rubber hosing (or cut up an innertube) around it. The wire is bound to wiggle (due to driving or flex) and the casing will eventually wear through.

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Why go though all that trouble when you can do it at the head unit by just turning the knob a click to the left

And actually I have

That's a horrible "example" to unclip a song

Cause

You can't unclip a song

Do you know the source of the clip?

Was it an instrument?

Or how it's was recorded?

A sample?

Mixing?

Mastering?

Vocals?

Sometimes a lil clip from the instrument gives a sound that it was intended to be their?

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Its clipped when processed by your head unit/mp3 player/whatever you are using to play, which is as bad as a square wave as it is essentially the same effect in the end.

As to the lessened volume - No shit sherlock, that is the best way to reduce source clipping on a poorly mastered source which is what we are dealing with in this thread. We are not dealing with professionally mastered audio here (not to say professional audio is very well done these days with all the loudness increasing happening).

Also, there happens to be a handy tool which uses interpolation to reconstruct the wave forms of more destructive clipping. Its not perfect and you're going to bitch about it because you like to complain more than offer help or constructive criticism, but here is anyways as the OP might find it helps him: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/clip_fix.html

You still need to use normalization and track amplification to use Clip Fix properly btw.

That video doesn't do what it says.

But the bigger problem is why does everyone care?

Clipping never killed anything, overpowering does.

If you've ever looked at the waves of some electronic music and rock you'll notice a lot of squared of waves.

Thinking is the root of all problems...

You ALWAYS get what you pay for.

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Because one click isnt always enough and as the OP has already stated he has knobs that seem to like to travel.

Thats good that you have turned the volume down. Gold star for progressive participation!

You can unclip a song. Its not a perfect method and isnt meant to be perfect, only to work well enough for the average user since we're not all owners of professional studios.

The source of the clip, how it was recorded, samples, mixing, mastering, or vocals dont matter if the resulting output quality from the creator of the content is the issue. The methods i've posted are to reduce damaging levels of clipping and loudness, which the OP is dealing with, thats all.

Yes, distortion is sometimes meant to be in the content to create the desired audio. If you place your audio above the dynamic levels of the equipment that will be playing it back you lose the intended effects.

Kirill - Your entire argument was invalidated the moment you typed "Clipping never killed anything".

MickyMcD - "Capable of making some serious trouser flapping volumes at where's-my-testicles frequencies, the Servo-Drives used to be fairly jaw dropping..."

Any time you have have a power wire next to your frame put some rubber hosing (or cut up an innertube) around it. The wire is bound to wiggle (due to driving or flex) and the casing will eventually wear through.

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Because one click isnt always enough and as the OP has already stated he has knobs that seem to like to travel.

Thats good that you have turned the volume down. Gold star for progressive participation!

You can unclip a song. Its not a perfect method and isnt meant to be perfect, only to work well enough for the average user since we're not all owners of professional studios.

The source of the clip, how it was recorded, samples, mixing, mastering, or vocals dont matter if the resulting output quality from the creator of the content is the issue. The methods i've posted are to reduce damaging levels of clipping and loudness, which the OP is dealing with, thats all.

Yes, distortion is sometimes meant to be in the content to create the desired audio. If you place your audio above the dynamic levels of the equipment that will be playing it back you lose the intended effects.

Kirill - Your entire argument was invalidated the moment you typed "Clipping never killed anything".

Why is that? Because 99.9% of the people believe it does?

Overpowering doesn't equal clipping, clipping in car audio usually means overpowering, but not the other way around

Thinking is the root of all problems...

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You can unclip a song, but it requires reshaping the soundwave and is a pain in the ass to do unless it's just one tiny spot in the track. otherwise you're just wasting your time.

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EP95 - Which is where the "clip fix" tool comes in handy as it does the sound wave interpolation for you. I agree that with poor source audio its "kind of pointless" but that may just be due to our tastes. To the OP the audio with messy levels was ok.. so maybe for him its worth it.

MickyMcD - "Capable of making some serious trouser flapping volumes at where's-my-testicles frequencies, the Servo-Drives used to be fairly jaw dropping..."

Any time you have have a power wire next to your frame put some rubber hosing (or cut up an innertube) around it. The wire is bound to wiggle (due to driving or flex) and the casing will eventually wear through.

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