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So I just got my AMM-1 the other day and someone mentioned to me that I might be able to test for port compression and power compression with it. This is a totally awesome idea that I would have never thought of so I wanted to give it a try with my test sub.

I played a tone through my sub at the box's tuning frequency and used my hand to block the port and sure enough the impedance would spike as I did so.

Then I watched the impedance as I turned the power up and once I started hearing some port noise the impedance would rise again. I need to do some more testing to make sure what I'm seeing is port compression and not power compression, but I'm pretty sure this is working like I want it to.

Testing for power compression should be easily enough to do too. Just test at a frequency well above tuning and look for the impedance to rise.

Does what I'm doing sound like it makes sense to anyone else?

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Here's an impedance sweep I did on one of my Hertz 8"s

By blocking the port you're changing the box from ported to sealed and the impedance would change accordingly which is probly what you're seeing.

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Port compression could play a similar factor I suppose.

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When I said I was blocking the port with my hand, I was only partially blocking it off and it took very little restriction before you would notice a change in impedance.

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Sure, makes sense.

Completely blocking the port will change the impedance characteristics to look like a sealed box.

But partially blocking it will only affect the impedance slightly.

I saw the same thing when measuring my impedance in my car with the cabin sealed (Legal) vs the door open (Outlaw).

Same thing with lowering my window little by little from a sealed configuration.

Every tiny change will affect the impedance.

I would suspect compressing the port to have a similar effect.

Would be cool to see some tests graphed out on what you find!

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feel free to play around with my subs with the amm1! im curious to see how they perform! tuned in!

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feel free to play around with my subs with the amm1! im curious to see how they perform! tuned in!

Oh man I may do that a bit, but I only have a 1,000 watt amp on hand which would only give those things a tickle. I doubt I even get 1000 watts out of my amp, at least I can find that out for sure.

Oh and to Wicks, I've got a test box I've used for some other port experiments. When it get time I'll probably play around with it some more with the AMM-1 to see what happens. Its too bad there wasn't an easy way to measure port velocity.

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Cool.

I'm always down for some out of the box experiments.

So an anemometer is used for measuring wind speed.

A normal cup or fan anemometer measures air flow in one direction which wouldn't work.

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But how about a hot-wire anemometer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemometer#Hot-wire_anemometers

They use a heated wire which cools as air flow passes over it. The temperature drop is used to calculate the amount of air flow.

Seems non-directional so it may work with port velocity as the speaker moves back and forth......?

http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=1&prodid=676

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Not the cheapest tool around, but eBay has a lot of various options with prices that aren't tooooo bad. :o Depending on how serious you are with the testing.

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Yeah I've heard of folks using hot-wire anemometers to measure port speed. There was a paper put out by Polk I believe on optimizing ports and I think that's what they used. I'd love to have one for testing, but I have a hard time justifying a several hundred dollar tool that really only does one thing.

I just need to make friends with some HVAC engineers, those folks use hot-wire anemometers all the time from what I hear.

Anyway, I'll test what I can and report back with my findings.

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