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So I had an idea for a 100% custom home audio build. I am going to do this but would like some opinions on the products.

-Subs-
4 Boss Audio P156DVC-15"subs 2500 watt (rated) in a 4th order at 32-35 Hz. I was going to do a 4000-5000 watt total on them. Box is subject to change depending on opinions.

-Per Tower-

2 Boss Audio P106DVC-10" subs 2100 watt (rated)

1 P55.4C-5.25" 4 way 300 watt (rated) [set as mid range]

1 TW50-5" Bullet Tweeter 500 watt (rated)

This was the general idea. For the towers I was going to do the bottom sub ported at 50Hz and the top sub/mid/tweeter in a separate sealed chamber. All in one box. The P55.4C will be isolated from the P106DVC as it is open back to not distort sound.

Another Idea was to use a 12" and a 10" or dual 12" in the towers. Like I said, just looking for opinions. I like boss audio, I have one of the 10" subs right now and it sounds killer. The amp will be my current amp. A Kenwood KR-6600 rated at 500 watts a channel. It hits hard and sounds good for being vintage. The 4 15" will be powered on a separate amp when I find one I like. All will be controlled by a single AUX cord to my computer or phone depending on what I am using. This is a build I hope to start here in the upcoming months. Just wondering what other people would think of it. Being car audio in a home system. I know people do it, but I don't think they go to this far of a degree. If you think I should change anything or add/remove anything please let me know. I am also looking at crossovers to make sure nothing blows. I am looking at 500-1000 watt ones. Just for safety reasons.


-Links-

http://www.bossaudio.com/
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/DISTRIBUTED-BY-MCM-CRX-23K-/60-10565 (crossover)

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If using Boss stuff makes you happy, don't let me stand in the way, just know that they flat out lie about what their stuff can do and you are not getting what you pay for.

Now with that out of the way, are you looking to build a system that sounds good or do you just want to get loud and don't care if it sounds like ass? Building/designing a home system that sounds GOOD is a lot more complicated than it sounds. Also you don't need anywhere near the power you are talking about. Home audio is not like car audio. 100 watts (real watts, not boss watts) on your mids/highs will blast you completely out of your house. 500 watts to an efficient sub will do the same.

If you are looking to build some home audio speakers that can go loud as hell and sound good while doing it take a look at this:

http://www.angelfire.com/music5/audio0/

You may not even need subs with the above, but if you do, one of these will walk all over your four Boss 15"s.

http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/THT.html

Here is another of my favorite home audio speakers designers:

https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/diy

"Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it."
"Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."

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I am well aware boss audio is overrating their products. I like the look of them and they won't break the bank to do a HUGE build. Besides, I want to try something new. I have used Clarion, Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood, JL Audio, JBL Audio, Kicker. I have never really used Boss. And I think I will give them a try. I mean I can always just swap out do different components later if I don't like the sound or they don't work to par. I am just looking for something that won't break the bank and has a decent sound. I have heard a few things from Boss and have read some good reviews on their products for durability and sound quality. I am willing to give them a try. Who knows, maybe they will sound better then I expect.


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Where are you seeing the KR-6600 at 500wpc? I'm seeing it rated at 60wpc, which is still plenty for a home build. If you are really just trying for something unique check out the TLAHs from billfitzmaurice.info. Here's mine: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/192638-line-array-hifi-tower-build/. On 60W a piece those will get extremely loud. They are rated for 99 dB at 1W sensitivity and are exceptionally clear and clean. Pair it with a 100-200W 12 or 15 and you'll have a pretty amazing system for well under $1000. The sub linked above is a great option too if you want to build, BFM horn subs have a reputation for getting loud and clean on low power.

And yeah, don't buy anything BOSS.

EVER.

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You came here asking for opinions, I think the most important thing I can try to convey to you is: if you care about performance at all, don't just cobble a bunch of stuff together.

There are LOTS of freely available designs (or reasonably priced like the BFM stuff) out there for you to choose from. Try one of those first so you can at least found out what GOOD sound is like.

"Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it."
"Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."

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You came here asking for opinions, I think the most important thing I can try to convey to you is: if you care about performance at all, don't just cobble a bunch of stuff together.

There are LOTS of freely available designs (or reasonably priced like the BFM stuff) out there for you to choose from. Try one of those first so you can at least found out what GOOD sound is like.

I will looking into other box designs but I am set on the speakers I want. I have done my research on them and as I already own one Boss Audio 10" I have the general idea how they sound, and they sound better as a full range driver then a sub alone. This isn't just a bunch of random things cobbles together and thrown in a pile, this is a thought out plan to give another audio company a chance to see what they got to offer. I am going to give Boss Audio a chance to prove themselves before I write them off.

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Hey if you want to give Boss a chance, that fine and I understand, I don't agree, and I wouldn't give them ANY of my money, but its your choice.

Let us know hows it turns out.

What is this boss audio 10" you are talking about running full range?

"Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it."
"Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."

Builds:

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Let us know how it turns out, but I would still recommend going with some cheap goldwoods or daytons from parts express instead of Boss junk. Also, I hope you realize your receiver is at best 75x2 at 4ohms, nowhere near 500wpc. Maybe you were looking at the power comsumption numbers, but you might want to scale back your speaker plans. 75 watts is still plenty for a home system, just don't plan on getting 500 because it's not possible with that receiver. Here's the specs for your receiver: http://imgur.com/by4Xh1I

2008 Subaru WRX STI

K&N Typhoon Intake

Invidia Polished Stainless 3" turbo back with cat

Cobb Accessport

Dyno tune from Kaizen Tuning

320awhp 330ft-lb awtq

MTX 421D Sub amp

American Bass SQ900 Highs/Mids amp

Sundown Audio SD-2 10 D4

JL Audio XR653-CS 3-way Components

3sixty.2

Second Skin Damplifier Pro

Custom fiberglass wheel well enclosure

Transmission Line quasi-floor enclosure

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/forum/13-member-rides-builds-show-off-your-whip-show-off-your-system/

Bill Fitzmaurice TLAH line-array hifi towers

9 Goldwood 4" mids (each)

12 Goldwood 1/2" tweeters (each)

NAD 1020 Preamp

MiniDSP 2x4 Balanced processor

Thorens TD166mkII Turntable

Hafler DH-200 Amplifier

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/192638-line-array-hifi-tower-build/

https://www.facebook.com/HolyMountainGlass

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...you've got to be kidding me. Kid, do yourself a favor and listen to Trit...

Also I am guessing if you already have a boss sub and you "like how it sounds" then you're deaf. And realistically you only care about how loud the sub can get.

If you have run those other brands you would be able to tell the difference between a sub that is quality and one thats made like shit. Boss makes their money off people too ignorant to know the difference between a sub with plastic chrome on it and one that is actually made to reproduce music/sound. The problem is a lot of manufacturers that I am seeing are running subs that are strong but not very good on music, i.e. more geared for pure SPL which means it really doesn't matter how they sound as long as they can get someone a higher score on the meter. This makes no sense to me really...a sub has to reproduce music, the best subs can do with with accuracy and have a huge output as well.

Check out Stereo Integrity subs (a sundown affiliate I believe). Good construction, they can get low and are made well. Also you won't break the bank. Dayton Audio subs are great and affordable.

Go on partsexpress and madisound...maybe Solen. For the $44 you paid for that sub or those subs you could get a decent pro audio sub or spend $20 more and get something quality and it would sound 1 million times better.

And you can't run a subwoofer that has a frequency response of 20-250Hz MAX at full range....to reproduce something other than bass that driver would have to be able to go from say 30Hz-20,000Hz and its not physically capable of doing that. Period.

You say you've done research but I call bullshit. You can take the advice people are giving you or be stubborn but from all your responses you haven't done the research that you need to, to understand what you need.

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Let us know how it turns out, but I would still recommend going with some cheap goldwoods or daytons from parts express instead of Boss junk. Also, I hope you realize your receiver is at best 75x2 at 4ohms, nowhere near 500wpc. Maybe you were looking at the power comsumption numbers, but you might want to scale back your speaker plans. 75 watts is still plenty for a home system, just don't plan on getting 500 because it's not possible with that receiver. Here's the specs for your receiver: http://imgur.com/by4Xh1I

I checked online. Never found the owners manual, the one I had with it was covered in oil and grease from storage so thanks on that. If it is only 75 watts, then the amp is still more powerful then most new ones out there. It sounds great for its age. It needs some TLC like older amps do but nothing major. For finding it in storage after 15 some off years being there it works and I am happy.

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