Wood Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Alright, so I'm about to redo my doors and figured I would TRY to make my life a bit easier.. Last time I used chop mat, but didn't like the "handling" and all the loose strands... I was seeing, given the same weight of chop mat and fiberglass cloth, would one be stronger than the other, or is it simply preference? It would be nice to cut the cloth and be able to achieve more of a smoother finish for less body work and even just laying the material onto the door panel. Thanks for the help guys! 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedal Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The last time I did my doors, I tried putting the cloth down first to make the base, and then put a layer of chop mat on top to make it a little thicker/sturdier? And I liked how that turned out compared to doing just chop or just cloth. But I'm also not the best go-to for fiberglassing as I'm still learning. SMD Tool Map https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/193176-smd-tool-map-new-november-2014/ Build log https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/197217-reeds-03-tahoe-hat-sqaq-singer-xs-shca-cockbox-80prs/?page=32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The last time I did my doors, I tried putting the cloth down first to make the base, and then put a layer of chop mat on top to make it a little thicker/sturdier? And I liked how that turned out compared to doing just chop or just cloth. But I'm also not the best go-to for fiberglassing as I'm still learning. Thank you for that advice.. I didnt like how chop mat layed up.. and it was a pain to cut to size, left a lot of loose strands in my work aera and such... I do use uv resin so if the cloth is fine to use in our application, I'm probably gonna try that lol 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The chop will lay much better and form better around curves. If you need to, invest in a roller made to lay the glass down and get out air pockets. Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I use 1.5 oz chop mat on everything. If I need it thicker, I do it in multiple different sessions and get it to the desired thickness. I hand tear sections about grapefruit sized and then I start laying them down and soaking with resin and rolling out. You will get good overlap and it WILL lay down if you're using good resin. Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 What kind of resin are you using? Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The chop will lay much better and form better around curves. If you need to, invest in a roller made to lay the glass down and get out air pockets. I was able to lay the mat flat without air bubbles, and I tried the roller, didn't like it.. I dabbed it flat with a chip brush and it worked out better for me as far as that... Also my doors don't have a lot of curvature in the area I'm glassing on my panels so I'm looking to see if there's a difference in strength 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Strength will be determined more on the weight of the mat. How heavy is the woven mat you're using? If it's apples to apples on weight, strength should be about the same. Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The chop will lay much better and form better around curves. If you need to, invest in a roller made to lay the glass down and get out air pockets.I was able to lay the mat flat without air bubbles, and I tried the roller, didn't like it.. I dabbed it flat with a chip brush and it worked out better for me as far as that... Also my doors don't have a lot of curvature in the area I'm glassing on my panels so I'm looking to see if there's a difference in strength If you didn't like the roller, you were probably over working it. I bet it had something to do with the resin as well. Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I use solarez ... pretty bad ass stuff! no complaints as far as that, just dont like the inconvenience of the mat.. I use 1.5 oz myself, but found 4oz 4hs fiberglass cloth for a good price also that is supposed to conform to curves (even though i would cut V's in the material to get it to curve) 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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