Triticum Agricolam Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 35 minutes ago, camshairtricks said: If port velocity is low already why go to a bigger port / I don’t want my port 100 inches long trying to get a 21hz tune .. you need to tell all these people that are loud low on small port area to get a bigger port . The problem is your port velocity won't be low. It will be over 50 m/sec, you will be throwing 2/3rds of your amp power away to port compression. As far as all the examples you posted, there are two problems. The first is we don't know the specifics of those installs (box size, tuning frequency, input power, etc), so I can't say whether they have enough port area or not. The second problem is just because they are getting good performance with what they have doesn't mean they wouldn't get a lot better performance if they ran more port area. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't, again without knowing the specifics no one can say. Its your build, do what you want, I really don't care. I'm only telling you this stuff because I'm trying to help you. Its up to you whether you take my advice or not. I've personally done a fair amount of port optimization testing where I used a calibrated mic to actually measure output and what happens to it when you don't have enough port area. But if you would rather rely on the ear-o-meter or how hard a shirt flaps in a youtube video, good luck with that. If you want to see the testing I've done you can see it here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/204068-port-compression-and-optimization/ "Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it.""Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."Builds: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camshairtricks Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Those test are different tho bec those are all playing higher frequency An tuned higher were you actually need more port area . Port velocity rises the higher the frequency you play . How told you my port velocity was high at 20hz with a 6 inch aero port ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camshairtricks Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 You should have done those tests an included a real low tuning around 20hz an rested port velocity around there an under 20hz I bet you would see totally different results An that port velocity will not be a prob even with ur smallest port area on that test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camshairtricks Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 A 20hz note it don’t take much port area for any sub to keep velocity down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalledSonic Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 I finally get it. You're like 16 years old. Gotta be. Because anyone with a bit more sense wouldnt be such an asshole about everything. You cant even design your own box, but you scoff at someone who (arguably) designs more boxes for people on this forum than anyone else, and posts data to prove it. @camshairtricks, you dont know shit. Design your own box with software and post the results. Post some real life testing with an RTA and lets see what you know. Chevy Sonic Wall (4) 15's on 10k Build Log https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209412-2015-chevy-sonicwall4-15s10klithiumlarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/ (4) Fi SP4 15's | (2) Ampere 5Ks | Active! | Arc KS600.2 & KS125.2mini | CDT Silk Domes | Silver Flute 8s | 240Ah JY | US Alts Jeep Wrangler JK (4) 8's in a 4th Order Build Log https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209841-shadow-2016-jeep-wrangler-jk4th-order4-8sdc-35klarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/ IG @walledsonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camshairtricks Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 walledsonic his tests have nothing to do with a very low tuned box . and i dont give a rats ass how many boxes he designs good for him . sec thing ur commets are all ways useless to me so stfu lmao...also i do no more than you think an i also no that with my sub a 6 inch port is fine for playing real low20hz an down easy. ur to stupid to understand. i know to many people doing big numbers 20hz and under with 6 inch ports.. also you dont finally get shit not even a cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camshairtricks Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 who do you think design the box thats in my fucking car right now ? retarded fuck why do you even talk ? your a very annoying sumbitch.. your comments never have anything to do with the subject at hand ...all you do is attack attack attack an talk ur shit like a kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camshairtricks Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 prove to me my port velocity will by 50m/sec at 20hz an under .................with a flared 6 inch port go ahead an show me this and ill stfu . 25m/sec and down is fine in my book. that guy in that last vidoe i posted his box is 5.5 cube net 2 dki 12s subs facing forward 6 inch port facing to the side on a 500 watt mtx amp he did over a 140dbs at 18hz ...he has no port noise down were he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalledSonic Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Keep talking... Youre proving your intellect with every post you make. Chevy Sonic Wall (4) 15's on 10k Build Log https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209412-2015-chevy-sonicwall4-15s10klithiumlarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/ (4) Fi SP4 15's | (2) Ampere 5Ks | Active! | Arc KS600.2 & KS125.2mini | CDT Silk Domes | Silver Flute 8s | 240Ah JY | US Alts Jeep Wrangler JK (4) 8's in a 4th Order Build Log https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209841-shadow-2016-jeep-wrangler-jk4th-order4-8sdc-35klarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/ IG @walledsonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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