Are You Ready For Some Fooootballlllllllll

[Pitbullx]

I am EXCITED, I have been foaming atthe mouth waiting for it too start back up.

IMO my Team has an EXCELLLENT chance at winning it all.

we have arguably the Best running back in the history of the NFL, But he is comming of a pretty serious Injury soIm nervous about wether or not he will be the same ole LT.

LT is the best allround back right now but theres no way in the hell he compares to

Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, Gayle Sayers, or Walter Payton

oh yea

Go Ravens (damn we have no offense)

[Coolwazabi]

can't wait..

hopefully Chris Johnson "1st draft pick" will become a diamond from the rough...

here is a video of him killing it...

Some stats

Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

I see...

Titans 24

Vikings 21

in the superbowl

[David]

are you sure he doesnt compare?

Only 40 Players in NFL history have scored 85 or more TD's in their career. 23 of these men spent most if not all of their careers as running backs, while the other 17 spent most of their time as wide receivers. Fully half (20), of the players on the list are already enshrined in the HOF, and only 5 of the 40 are active players.

Jerry Rice.............208......Eric Dickerson+.......96

Emmitt Smith...........175......Jerome Bettis.........94

Marcus Allen+..........145......Priest Holmes.........94

Marshall Faulk.........136......Jim Taylor+...........93

Cris Carter............131......Ricky Watters.........91

Terrell Owens*..........131......Bobby Mitchell+.......91

LaDainian Tomlinson*...129......Tony Dorsett+.........91

Jim Brown+.............126......Leroy Kelly+..........90

Walter Payton+.........125......Charley Taylor+.......90

Randy Moss*............125......Corey Dillon..........89

Marvin Harrison*.......123......Thurman Thomas+.......88

John Riggins+..........116......Andre Reed............88

Lenny Moore+...........113......Don Maynard+..........88

Shaun Alexander*.......112......Edgerrin James*.......88

Barry Sanders+.........109......Irving Fryar..........88

Don Hutson+............105......Lance Alworth+........87

Tim Brown..............105......Ottis Anderson........86

Steve Largent+.........101......Paul Warfield+........86

Franco Harris+.........100......Mark Clayton..........85

Curtis Martin..........100......Tommy McDonald+.......85

+ Denotes HOF players, * Denotes active players

Since these players span the eras from the 30's to today's game; I decided to compare them all based on what they averaged over the course of 16 games. I ranked them by yardage since that's the current fashion.

Running Backs...............................Wide Receivers

..................Att.....Yards.....TD's.....................Rec....Yards.....TD's

J. Brown+........319.9...1,669.4...17.08....J. Rice..........81.8...1,430.9...13.00

B. Sanders+......320.2...1,596.8...11.40....M. Harrison*.....95.3...1,274.9...11.25

L. Tomlinson*....340.9...1,535.1...18.59....R. Moss*.........80.4...1,266.8...12.99

E. Dickerson+....328.3...1,453.0...10.52....T. Owens*........81.6...1,208.8...12.12

E. James*........356.1...1,450.9...11.00....L. Alworth+......63.8...1,207.8...10.24

W. Payton+.......323.2...1,408.5...10.53....D. Hutson+.......67.3...1,102.2...14.00

C. Martin........335.0...1,342.9....9.52....S. Largent+......65.5...1,047.1....8.08

E. Smith.........312.1...1,299.5...12.39....D. Maynard+......54.4...1,017.0....7.57

S. Alexander*....292.6...1,267.8...15.06....C. Carter........75.3.....950.4....8.96

C. Dillon........279.3...1,199.0....9.49....T. Brown.........68.6.....937.0....6.59

R. Watters.......291.3...1,182.6...10.11....C. Taylor+.......62.9.....921.3....8.73

T. Dorsett+......271.5...1,178.2....8.42....M. Clayton.......58.9.....908.8....8.61

P. Holmes........252.2...1,157.1...13.31....A. Reed..........65.0.....902.4....6.17

J. Bettis........289.9...1,138.5....7.83....T. McDonald+.....52.1.....885.3....8.95

F. Harris+.......272.7...1,120.9....9.25....P. Warfield+.....43.5.....872.9....8.76

M. Faulk.........257.8...1,116.3...12.36....B. Mitchell+.....56.3.....859.9....9.84

T. Thomas+.......252.9...1,061.5....7.74....I. Fryar.........53.4.....802.2....5.52

J. Taylor+.......235.3...1,042.1...11.27

J. Riggins+......266.6...1,037.9...10.61

O. Anderson......225.2.....903.1....7.56

M. Allen+........217.8.....882.4...10.45

L. Kelly+........203.2.....855.8...10.59

L. Moore+........119.6.....578.9...12.64

+ Denotes HOF players, * Denotes active players

Of course the Chargers are represented nicely, LaDainian has the highest per game TD average of all time, so his stat for his average for 16 games is also the best. And Lance Alworth, despite the relatively few balls the receivers of his era caught over the course of a season (when compared to the elite wide-outs of today's game), is one of only six receivers on the list to average over 10 TD's per 16 games.

[David]

are you sure he doesnt compare?

Only 40 Players in NFL history have scored 85 or more TD's in their career. 23 of these men spent most if not all of their careers as running backs, while the other 17 spent most of their time as wide receivers. Fully half (20), of the players on the list are already enshrined in the HOF, and only 5 of the 40 are active players.

Jerry Rice.............208......Eric Dickerson+.......96

Emmitt Smith...........175......Jerome Bettis.........94

Marcus Allen+..........145......Priest Holmes.........94

Marshall Faulk.........136......Jim Taylor+...........93

Cris Carter............131......Ricky Watters.........91

Terrell Owens*..........131......Bobby Mitchell+.......91

LaDainian Tomlinson*...129......Tony Dorsett+.........91

Jim Brown+.............126......Leroy Kelly+..........90

Walter Payton+.........125......Charley Taylor+.......90

Randy Moss*............125......Corey Dillon..........89

Marvin Harrison*.......123......Thurman Thomas+.......88

John Riggins+..........116......Andre Reed............88

Lenny Moore+...........113......Don Maynard+..........88

Shaun Alexander*.......112......Edgerrin James*.......88

Barry Sanders+.........109......Irving Fryar..........88

Don Hutson+............105......Lance Alworth+........87

Tim Brown..............105......Ottis Anderson........86

Steve Largent+.........101......Paul Warfield+........86

Franco Harris+.........100......Mark Clayton..........85

Curtis Martin..........100......Tommy McDonald+.......85

+ Denotes HOF players, * Denotes active players

Since these players span the eras from the 30's to today's game; I decided to compare them all based on what they averaged over the course of 16 games. I ranked them by yardage since that's the current fashion.

Running Backs...............................Wide Receivers

..................Att.....Yards.....TD's.....................Rec....Yards.....TD's

J. Brown+........319.9...1,669.4...17.08....J. Rice..........81.8...1,430.9...13.00

B. Sanders+......320.2...1,596.8...11.40....M. Harrison*.....95.3...1,274.9...11.25

L. Tomlinson*....340.9...1,535.1...18.59....R. Moss*.........80.4...1,266.8...12.99

E. Dickerson+....328.3...1,453.0...10.52....T. Owens*........81.6...1,208.8...12.12

E. James*........356.1...1,450.9...11.00....L. Alworth+......63.8...1,207.8...10.24

W. Payton+.......323.2...1,408.5...10.53....D. Hutson+.......67.3...1,102.2...14.00

C. Martin........335.0...1,342.9....9.52....S. Largent+......65.5...1,047.1....8.08

E. Smith.........312.1...1,299.5...12.39....D. Maynard+......54.4...1,017.0....7.57

S. Alexander*....292.6...1,267.8...15.06....C. Carter........75.3.....950.4....8.96

C. Dillon........279.3...1,199.0....9.49....T. Brown.........68.6.....937.0....6.59

R. Watters.......291.3...1,182.6...10.11....C. Taylor+.......62.9.....921.3....8.73

T. Dorsett+......271.5...1,178.2....8.42....M. Clayton.......58.9.....908.8....8.61

P. Holmes........252.2...1,157.1...13.31....A. Reed..........65.0.....902.4....6.17

J. Bettis........289.9...1,138.5....7.83....T. McDonald+.....52.1.....885.3....8.95

F. Harris+.......272.7...1,120.9....9.25....P. Warfield+.....43.5.....872.9....8.76

M. Faulk.........257.8...1,116.3...12.36....B. Mitchell+.....56.3.....859.9....9.84

T. Thomas+.......252.9...1,061.5....7.74....I. Fryar.........53.4.....802.2....5.52

J. Taylor+.......235.3...1,042.1...11.27

J. Riggins+......266.6...1,037.9...10.61

O. Anderson......225.2.....903.1....7.56

M. Allen+........217.8.....882.4...10.45

L. Kelly+........203.2.....855.8...10.59

L. Moore+........119.6.....578.9...12.64

+ Denotes HOF players, * Denotes active players

Of course the Chargers are represented nicely, LaDainian has the highest per game TD average of all time, so his stat for his average for 16 games is also the best. And Lance Alworth, despite the relatively few balls the receivers of his era caught over the course of a season (when compared to the elite wide-outs of today's game), is one of only six receivers on the list to average over 10 TD's per 16 games.

need more I got more

25 times, an NFL player has scored 20 or more TD's in a single season.

.....................TD Year.....Gms/P..Age..TD Breakdown

LaDainian Tomlinson..31 2006 SDG 16 gms (27) 28 rush...3 rec.

Shaun Alexander......28 2005 SEA 16 gms (28) 27 rush...1 rec.

Priest Holmes........27 2003 KAN 16 gms (29) 27 rush.........

Marshall Faulk.......26 2000 STL 14 gms (27) 18 rush...8 rec.

Emmitt Smith.........25 1995 DAL 16 gms (26) 25 rush.........

Priest Holmes........24 2002 KAN 14 gms (28) 21 rush...3 rec.

John Riggins+........24 1983 WAS 15 gms (34) 24 rush.........

O.J. Simpson+........23 1975 BUF 14 gms (28) 16 rush...7 rec.

Jerry Rice...........23 1987 SFO 12 gms (25) _1 rush..22 rec.

Terrell Davis........23 1998 DEN 16 gms (26) 21 rush...2 rec.

Randy Moss...........23 2007 NWE 16 gms (30) .........23 rec.

Emmitt Smith.........22 1994 DAL 15 gms (25) 21 rush...1 rec.

Chuck Foreman........22 1975 MIN 14 gms (25) 13 rush...9 rec.

Gale Sayers+.........22 1965 CHI 14 gms (22) 14 rush...6 rec..1 PR..1 KR

Jim Brown+...........21 1965 CLE 14 gms (29) 17 rush...4 rec.

Joe Morris...........21 1985 NYG 16 gms (25) 21 rush.........

Terry Allen..........21 1996 WAS 16 gms (28) 21 rush.........

Marshall Faulk.......21 2001 STL 14 gms (28) 12 rush...9 rec.

Larry Johnson........21 2005 KAN 16 gms (26) 20 rush...1 rec.

Lenny Moore+.........20 1964 BAL 14 gms (31) 16 rush...3 rec..1 Fum Ret.

Leroy Kelly+.........20 1968 CLE 14 gms (26) 16 rush...4 rec.

Eric Dickerson+......20 1983 RAM 16 gms (23) 18 rush...2 rec.

Ahman Green..........20 2003 GNB 16 gms (26) 15 rush...5 rec.

Shaun Alexander......20 2004 SEA 16 gms (27) 16 rush...4 rec.

LaDainian Tomlinson..20 2005 SDG 16 gms (26) 18 rush...2 rec.

Tomlinson, Holmes, Faulk, Smith, and Alexander have all done it twice.

Sayers was the youngest (22), Riggins the oldest (34)

In 1964 Lenny Moore became the first player ever to score 20 TD's

In 1965 Gale Sayers set a new record with 22

In 1975 O.J. Simpson set a new record with 23

In 1983 John Riggins set a new record with 24

In 1995 Emmitt Smith set a new record with 25

In 2000 Marshall Faulk set a new record with 26

In 2003 Priest Holmes set a new record with 27

In 2005 Shaun Alexander set a new record with 28

In 2006 LaDainian Tomlinson set the current record with 31

I'd love to see LaDainian become the first player in history to score 20 or more three times in a career this season.

[Coolwazabi]

good point david... and why does it say T.O. is not an active player ?

[David]

yeah missed that one, fixxed it

[AI James]

good point david... and why does it say T.O. is not an active player ?

exactly why does it say that.

and i dont agree at all about vikings titans both will be lucky to make playoffs imo

[Coolwazabi]

yeah... i picked those cause i'm a fan of the titans... and IMO that game would be good...

[David]

Currently, there are 25 modern-era running backs enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. No running backs will be inducted in this years class.

I decided to take a look at how LaDainian Tomlinson compared to these 25 outstanding backs.

...............GAMES.............RUSHING.............RECEIVING..........YARDS FROM

..............PLAYED..............YARDS................YARDS.............SCRIMMA

GE

Marcus Allen....222...Payton......16,736...Moore.......6,039...Payton......21,274

Walter Payton...190...Sanders.....15,269...Gifford.....5,434...Sanders.....18,190

Thurman Thomas..182...Dickerson...13,259...Allen.......5,411...Allen.......17,654

Joe Perry.......181...Dorsett.....12,739...Payton......4,538...Thomas......16,532

John Riggins....175...Brown.......12,312...Thomas......4,458...Dorsett.....16,293

Tony Dorsett....173...Allen.......12,243...Dorsett.....3,554...Dickerson...15,396

Franco Harris...173...Harris......12,120...Tomlinson*..3,375...Brown.......14,811

Ollie Matson....171...Thomas......12,074...Matson......3,285...Harris......14,407

Barry Sanders...153...Riggins.....11,352...McElhenny...3,247...Tomlinson*..14,025

Larry Csonka....146...Simpson.....11,236...Sanders.....2,921...Riggins.....13,442

Eric Dickerson..146...Tomlinson*..10,650...Walker......2,539...Simpson.....13,378

John H. Johnson.143...Perry........9,723...Brown.......2,499...Perry.......11,744

Hugh McElhenny..143...Campbell.....9,407...Harris......2,287...Moore.......11,213

Lenny Moore.....143...Taylor.......8,597...Kelly.......2,281...Taylor......10,353

Frank Gifford...136...Csonka.......8,081...Simpson.....2,142...Campbell....10,213

Leroy Kelly.....136...Kelly........7,274...Dickerson...2,137...Kelly........9,555

O.J. Simpson....135...Johnson......6,803...Riggins.....2.090...Gifford......9,043

Jim Taylor......132...McElhenny....5,281...Perry.......2,021...Csonka.......8,901

Jim Brown.......118...Moore........5,174...Taylor......1,756...McElhenny....8,528

Earl Campbell...115...Matson.......5,173...Hornung.....1,480...Matson.......8,458

L. Tomlinson*...111...Sayers.......4,956...Johnson.....1,478...Johnson......8,281

Marion Motley...106...Motley.......4,720...Trippi......1,321...Sayers.......6,263

Paul Hornung....104...Hornung......3,711...Sayers......1,307...Motley.......5,827

Charley Trippi...99...Gifford......3,609...Motley......1,107...Hornung......5,191

Gale Sayers......68...Trippi.......3,506...Csonka........820...Trippi.......4,827

Doak Walker......67...Walker.......1,520...Campbell......806...Walker.......4,059

....................All Purpose+................Total TDs Rush...Recv....Ret...TD Passes

.......................Yards.....................Scored....TDs....TDs....TDs....

Thrown

Walter Payton.........22,144.......Marcus Allen....145.....123.....21.....1.......6

Barry Sanders.........18,319.......L. Tomlinson*...129.....115.....14.....0.......7

Marcus Allen..........17,936.......Jim Brown.......126.....106.....20.....0.......3

Thurman Thomas........16,532.......Walter Payton...125.....110.....15.....0.......8

Tony Dorsett..........16,334.......John Riggins....116.....104.....12.....0.......0

Jim Brown.............15,576.......Lenny Moore.....113......63.....48.....2.......2

Eric Dickerson........15,411.......Barry Sanders...109......99.....10.....0.......0

Franco Harris.........14,640.......Franco Harris...100......91......9.....0.......0

O.J. Simpson..........14,478.......Eric Dickerson...96......90......6.....0.......1

L. Tomlinson*.........14,168.......Jim Taylor.......93......83.....10.....0.......0

John Riggins..........13,442.......Tony Dorsett.....91......77.....13.....1.......1

Ollie Matson..........12,799.......Leroy Kelly......90......74.....13.....3.......2

Joe Perry.............12,581.......Thurman Thomas...88......65.....23.....0.......0

Lenny Moore...........12,482.......Joe Perry........84......71.....12.....1.......1

Leroy Kelly...........12,422.......Frank Gifford....78......34.....43.....1......14

Hugh McElhenny........11,369.......O.J. Simpson.....76......61.....14.....1.......1

Frank Gifford.........10,581.......Earl Campbell....74......74......0.....0.......1

Jim Taylor............10,538.......Ollie Matson.....73......40.....23....10.......0

Earl Campbell.........10,270.......Larry Csonka.....68......64......4.....0.......0

Charley Trippi.........9,695.......Paul Hornung.....62......50.....12.....0.......5

Gale Sayers............9,546.......Hugh McElhenny...60......38.....20.....2.......0

Larry Csonka...........8,901.......John H. Johnson..55......48......7.....0.......2

John H. Johnson........8,371.......Gale Sayers......48......39......9.....8.......1

Marion Motley..........6,949.......Marion Motley....39......31......7.....1.......0

Paul Hornung...........5,822.......Charley Trippi...37......23.....11.....3......16

Doak Walker............5,386.......Doak Walker......34......12.....21.....1.......2

+All Purpose Yards -- rushing, receiving, passing, kick and punt returns

.................Points........................Pro....................MVP

.................Scored.......................Bowls..................Awards

Marcus Allen.......872......Barry Sanders......10......Jim Brown........3

L. Tomlinson*......774......Jim Brown...........9......L. Tomlinson*....1

Paul Hornung.......760......Walter Payton.......9......Barry Sanders....1

Jim Brown..........756......Franco Harris.......9......Walter Payton....1

Walter Payton......750......Frank Gifford.......8......Marcus Allen.....1

John Riggins.......696......Lenny Moore.........7......Thurman Thomas...1

Lenny Moore........678......Marcus Allen........6......Earl Campbell....1

Barry Sanders......654......O.J. Simpson........6......O.J. Simpson.....1

Franco Harris......600......Eric Dickerson......6......Frank Gifford....1

Eric Dickerson.....576......Leroy Kelly.........6......Paul Hornung.....1

Jim Taylor.........558......Ollie Matson........6......Joe Perry........1

Tony Dorsett.......546......Hugh McElhenny......6

Leroy Kelly........540......L. Tomlinson*.......5

Doak Walker........534......Earl Campbell.......5

Thurman Thomas.....528......Thurman Thomas......5

Joe Perry..........513......Larry Csonka........5

Frank Gifford......484......Jim Taylor..........5

O.J. Simpson.......456......Doak Walker.........5

Earl Campbell......444......Tony Dorsett........4

Ollie Matson.......438......Gale Sayers.........4

Larry Csonka.......408......John H. Johnson.....4

Hugh McElhenny.....360......Joe Perry...........3

Gale Sayers........336......Paul Hornung........2

John H. Johnson....330......Charley Trippi......2

Marion Motley......234......John Riggins........1

Charley Trippi.....222......Marion Motley.......1

ohh and I take no credit for creating those lists, a buddy on a site i goto is a stat whore lol

but you gotta give LT his props mang, only 7 complete seasons, and he is right there with all the greats

[Pitbullx]

i give tomlinson his props.. hes a great RB

I just dont believe he is the best like you seem to believe he is.....

Barry Sanders did what he did behind the worst o-line in the NFL and no other real offensive threats. God knows what he would have done with a line that could hold a block for more than 1 second and someone else that would keep teams from stacking the box with 8-9 players.

And btw there is only 1 LT and he never played in San Diego