dr hypothesis Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Wow, this thread is still going. Needless to say I charged them before I installed them. Currently resting at just under 13volts in my car. I was on my way home to my parents to work on my setup when I hit a deer. Here's a shot of my nearly completed wall: And my ugly trunk: Can't drive around at night with my like this, so I haven't gotten to listen to my setup much yet. Just glad the deer didn't hit the passenger side. Quote 2001 Chevy Impala Eclipse CD7200 mkii Cactus Sounds 5kw Sundown 100.4 (2) Fi BTL 18s (walled) ID 6.5s (2 sets) Iraggi 320 amp Alt XS Power Batts KnuKonceptz Wiring MidwestSPL Scores: 152.0 Advanced 2 136.1 Extreme 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiej Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I don't get that at all. I have never seen a battery draw that much current that it would "over-work" the alt. Happens all the time. Ask anyone in the alt business. One of the main reasons alts die is from a weak or bad battery. Many times customers will buy a new alt after it goes bad and kill a brand new one because the battery was the original problem to begin with. Sometimes guys will buy a big alt to charge a big bank of batts... sure fire way to kill a brand new alt is to throw it on a big bank of batts that are dead. The alt builds heat (epecially at idle) and can melt the stator just like a subwoofer coil that has been overdriven. Quote XS POWER Batteries, Chargers & Accessories 888-4XS-POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiej Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Wow, this thread is still going. Needless to say I charged them before I installed them. Currently resting at just under 13volts in my car. I was on my way home to my parents to work on my setup when I hit a deer. Here's a shot of my nearly completed wall: And my ugly trunk: Can't drive around at night with my like this, so I haven't gotten to listen to my setup much yet. Just glad the deer didn't hit the passenger side. Sweet! Sorry to hear you hit a deer though! Quote XS POWER Batteries, Chargers & Accessories 888-4XS-POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stayfly33 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 any good agm charger should work I use a ctek 7000 so couldnt you just use something like a ctek 7000 instead of spending $300 on a 1005 Intelli-Charger? or does it make a huge diffrence? i would amagin that something like a ctek 7000 would take forever to charge idk much about charging batteries and ive already had a bad experience with one (i nearly shit my pants from the explosion, good thing it was on a chrysler sebring where the battery is in the wheelwell) Quote Bass is my drug. One hit and i was hooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopkiller Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Happens all the time. Ask anyone in the alt business. One of the main reasons alts die is from a weak or bad battery. Many times customers will buy a new alt after it goes bad and kill a brand new one because the battery was the original problem to begin with. Sometimes guys will buy a big alt to charge a big bank of batts... sure fire way to kill a brand new alt is to throw it on a big bank of batts that are dead. The alt builds heat (epecially at idle) and can melt the stator just like a subwoofer coil that has been overdriven. I could see you point about a battery that had shorted cells or some other major defect, but simply low charged batteries out of the box should not draw more power than the alt would be required to make when the audio is pumping. Let's take this guys specific example. He had a D3100 @ 12.74v and a D3400 @ 12.51v out of the box. How many amps of current would you expect to see these two batteries draw in order to charge? I would bet my left nut (right one is no good) that it would be less than 50A of draw to charge them. So what you are saying is that this guy would burn up his alt by pulling 50A to charge these? If that is true, then he has one POS alt and should NEVER install an audio system in that vehicle. Agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopkiller Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Happens all the time. Ask anyone in the alt business. One of the main reasons alts die is from a weak or bad battery. Many times customers will buy a new alt after it goes bad and kill a brand new one because the battery was the original problem to begin with. Sometimes guys will buy a big alt to charge a big bank of batts... sure fire way to kill a brand new alt is to throw it on a big bank of batts that are dead. The alt builds heat (epecially at idle) and can melt the stator just like a subwoofer coil that has been overdriven. Hmm... Scottie, I did some more research and have found that you have given other advice on a similar issue on another board. Here is a quote: http://audioforum.termpro.com/topic/22/4999.html#000012 im using d2700.i havent charge it yet"fresh from the box,should i charge it first?".as for now im very satisfied and im seeing 12.4 and up from the amp input.stock alt.. If you've already installed it, I wouldnt worry about charging it with a charger. The alternator should do a good job as long as it is sufficient for the job. -------------------- Scottie Johnson Sound Pressure Technologies So after reading your posts, I am confused if you really think that an alt is a safe charging method or not? I think most of us here want a real sound answer on this subject. I know this probably looks like I am trying to back you in a corner, I truly am not. I just want to get to the bottom of this issue once and for all. I know that you have been in this industry for years. I remember back before you joined PM, when you ran Optima batteries. I trust your advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr hypothesis Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 I could see you point about a battery that had shorted cells or some other major defect, but simply low charged batteries out of the box should not draw more power than the alt would be required to make when the audio is pumping. Let's take this guys specific example. He had a D3100 @ 12.74v and a D3400 @ 12.51v out of the box. How many amps of current would you expect to see these two batteries draw in order to charge? I would bet my left nut (right one is no good) that it would be less than 50A of draw to charge them. So what you are saying is that this guy would burn up his alt by pulling 50A to charge these? If that is true, then he has one POS alt and should NEVER install an audio system in that vehicle. Agree? Just to clarify, I have a 200 amp alt. Quote 2001 Chevy Impala Eclipse CD7200 mkii Cactus Sounds 5kw Sundown 100.4 (2) Fi BTL 18s (walled) ID 6.5s (2 sets) Iraggi 320 amp Alt XS Power Batts KnuKonceptz Wiring MidwestSPL Scores: 152.0 Advanced 2 136.1 Extreme 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopkiller Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Just to clarify, I have a 200 amp alt. That is exactly my point. If your 200A alt cannot handle charging 2 batteries, then someone needs to start making better alts, and/or we need to quit running more than 50A of audio current on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BAGGEDBIRDS.com Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 We recommend the 1005 Intelli-Charger, but if you have a normal "timer type" charger it is fine to use as long as you closely monitor the voltage. With a normal type charger use the trickle setting and monitor the voltage closely to make sure it doesnt exceed 14.9V. Can / how do people do the MLA modules with them? Quote 1st SMD "System of the Month" Feb. 2007 Zapco Studio 500 (2) Zapco Studio 300X Zapco Studio 204 (2) (2) FI 12ssd's w/ copper coils DLS Iridium Tweeters DLS UR2.5 MidRange FI. N.7 Midbass JL Audio TWK 88 Mechman 370A Elite Alternator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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