SojiaRaggs9000 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 (edited) Well I have a stock alt that was rewound to put out more.. puts out around 210ish (used to putout 110) Anyways I have 2 12" DC lvl4 XL running @ 1/2 ohm off a DC PAI3000.1.... 2 sets of SS56.2 SS-Series 5 ¼" components running on a RF T400.4..........12v Optima 9003-151 Red Top 34R battery under the hood. Got 3 runs of 4ga running from the battery to a distribution block in the trunk with 5" peice of 1/0 running to the DC PAI3000.1. Anyways.. my voltage at idile is 14.24~14.26 ...... @ 3/4 (60/80) voulume the voltage drops from 14.26 to 10~9ish What do you guys suggest I do? with the 3 runs of 4ga it basically like having a bit larger than 1/0 wire. I know I need some batts in the back but I have no idea how many... Should Up upgrade my alt? its 210ish atm would the 40+ make any difference? Maybe get a dual alt setup? lmk your thoughts. Edit1: forgot to mention I do have big 3 done with 1/0 wire. Edited September 6, 2009 by SojiaRaggs9000 Quote * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehbert0 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 get a big group 31 batt for the trunk Quote http://motorcitydesignsaudio.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac58 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I am kind of in the same boat as you. Im planning on upgrading to 2 batts and getting a dual alt setup. I was thinking of having my second alt dedicated entirely to my audio system. But then again I am running a lot less power I believe Roughly how many watts RMS are you running? Quote Current build: Pioneer AVH-P3100DVD Soundstream EQ RF Components (5 1/4, 6 1/2, 6x9 x 2) Two Fi-BTL 15's One RF T1500-1bd Amplifier T400-4bd XS Power 608 XS Power D1200 Optima Yellow top 34 Soon to come: Another RF T1500-1bd HO Alt 1-6 more XS power 680 Team D.M.V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SojiaRaggs9000 Posted September 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 (edited) well the DC PAI3000.1 is rated 3000 @ 1ohm.. im running @ .5 so idk honestly... But I have the voltage set to 27.3 to accept at least 3000 watts (1500rms per sub) get a big group 31 batt for the trunk You think just 1 would do the trick? Any idea what brand? kenetic, xs? Edited September 6, 2009 by SojiaRaggs9000 Quote * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac58 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Well IMO I would say just add another battery, (Either kinetic or XS, If you have any personal experience with any of them. But either way everyone says that they are pretty good)Or get another HO alt to replace your current one. One that puts out about 300 should work great for you. Quote Current build: Pioneer AVH-P3100DVD Soundstream EQ RF Components (5 1/4, 6 1/2, 6x9 x 2) Two Fi-BTL 15's One RF T1500-1bd Amplifier T400-4bd XS Power 608 XS Power D1200 Optima Yellow top 34 Soon to come: Another RF T1500-1bd HO Alt 1-6 more XS power 680 Team D.M.V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SojiaRaggs9000 Posted September 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 If I can find a suitable 300 hHO alt would I need the 31 bat or nah?? Or vise versa.. Or should I just get both eventually so that there is no worrying about it later lol? Quote * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundzright Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I would get a good street alt that does 250 amps and a good group 31 sized battery like a kinetik 2400 or an nsb 3100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 batts before alt. im running almost 4k watts and have 2 big c&d batts with 3 runs of +/- and have almost no voltage drop...stock alt Quote i was thinking leave the 12 sitting in the box in the hole and duck tape from the bottom of the sub to the bottom of the baffle so the sub doesnt free air. would that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 You shouldnt have that low of an ohm load at the amp if you dont have the electrical to back it up. Get a battery bank, a Kinetik 2400 or Powermaster 3100 would work just fine. I bet if you rewired your shit to 2 ohms (assuming that the subs are both dual 2) then your voltage wouldnt drop as low. Just cuz you have multiple runs of 4 guage doesnt mean your shit wont drop, if you have that good of an alt, then with a big bat in the trunk you should be fine. So get a bigger battery and come back to us Quote Team gg Team doa Installs I have doneMy 2010 Rebuild 144 db so far....2 DC xl 10s Firing into cabin on a RF 25002 12" AQ HD's powered by a Saz 2k + Lots o Mids+Highs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 my rebuilt stock alt did that when it was starting to die.... best of luck on just adding batts but it seems you need both... more batts and a new larger alt.. Quote Full eclipse system is next on list.. soon to gut and redo the honda as new project/rolling buissness card i miss the sound of those old school strokers on beast amps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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