tommyk90 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) Wait a tick, thats a different sub in the video. What kinds of tricks are you trying to pull? I wanted to see the magical 4000 watts for 15+ seconds like you were doing before, not a 1 second fart. Don't forget to use the flat cone woofer as well. Come on a team, I thought you were better than that. If you're gonna prove me wrong, at least use the same damn sub. Go ahead, throw the meters on real time mode, and crank that amp up to 4000 watts for 15 seconds. *awaits "just a hater" comments* If you people hate me for not liking that video, then something is wrong with you. It's not even the same sub! Edited December 21, 2009 by tommyk90 Team B2, Team Audiotechnix, Team Kicker, Team XS Power, Team Sundown, Team Maxxsonics, Team DD2008 Bassrace 130-139.9 Regional and National Champion2006, 2007, 2009, 2010 and 2012 MECA Champion (S1, SR1, S2, S3, S4, DB1) -1 DD 9510F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ .7 ohm strapped=154.2 headrest, 129.2 driveby-2 DD 9510F's + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=154.0 headrest-1 DD 9512F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=153.5 headrest, 131.1 Driveby -2 DD 9512F + 2 B2 Zero1's @ .5 strapped= 157.0 headrest, 158.0 outlaw-1 Sundown SA-8 + 2 MB Quart 2000's=148.8 headrest, 150.6 outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000LaDe Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 LOL ive read this whole thread and wow its mostly DC Fanboys vs anybody that has something contradicting to DC's product. STFU and let the sub do the talking which should have been done in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loganberry Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 this thread is freaking crazy lol My F-150 Build GET ON THE BANDWAGON what if they tried messing with the amps when the subs werent louder hahah jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyk90 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 this thread is freaking crazy lol You ain't kiddin. I wouldn't expect anything less from this forum! Team B2, Team Audiotechnix, Team Kicker, Team XS Power, Team Sundown, Team Maxxsonics, Team DD2008 Bassrace 130-139.9 Regional and National Champion2006, 2007, 2009, 2010 and 2012 MECA Champion (S1, SR1, S2, S3, S4, DB1) -1 DD 9510F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ .7 ohm strapped=154.2 headrest, 129.2 driveby-2 DD 9510F's + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=154.0 headrest-1 DD 9512F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=153.5 headrest, 131.1 Driveby -2 DD 9512F + 2 B2 Zero1's @ .5 strapped= 157.0 headrest, 158.0 outlaw-1 Sundown SA-8 + 2 MB Quart 2000's=148.8 headrest, 150.6 outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00sdime00 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 I had no doubts that the cone material isn't strong.The part that concerns me the most is the cone to former joint. Free-air is grand and all, but how about a clamp meter and DMM so we can see some real power figures? Not just "oh, probably 4000 watts". I've had a lvl4xl in my possession and it would most definitely not take 4000 watts free-air (and before you ask, yes it had a beefed up suspension). I had it wired to 1 ohm on my zx2500 and I could take it to half of my normal burp volume, so at best I would say 1000 watts. Put in a box in a real install and burp it with 4kw please. I think that was a lvl4xl in the vid, Tommy. And I believe he made that vid in response to the above quote. A half-wit gave you a piece of his mind, and you held on to it. My Youtube vids...enjoy anythings possible with the right build =] we accept visa and mastercard =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyk90 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) I think that was a lvl4xl in the vid, Tommy. And I believe he made that vid in response to the above quote. I understand that, but why post a video of the flat cone free air, and then a different sub? Disregarding the fact that he took 2 spiked half second readings and passed it off as the same amount of power he was free-airing the flat cone sub with, why use a different sub? He knows that this whole clusterfuck of a thread deals with the flat cone, yet he uses a completely different sub for the "power" test? Hey, like I said, maybe he has a much beastlier xl than I had in my possession, but he just left way too many openings with that video. Though yes, part of it is my fault since I wasn't exactly detailed in what I was expecting from a power test video. Edited December 21, 2009 by tommyk90 Team B2, Team Audiotechnix, Team Kicker, Team XS Power, Team Sundown, Team Maxxsonics, Team DD2008 Bassrace 130-139.9 Regional and National Champion2006, 2007, 2009, 2010 and 2012 MECA Champion (S1, SR1, S2, S3, S4, DB1) -1 DD 9510F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ .7 ohm strapped=154.2 headrest, 129.2 driveby-2 DD 9510F's + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=154.0 headrest-1 DD 9512F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=153.5 headrest, 131.1 Driveby -2 DD 9512F + 2 B2 Zero1's @ .5 strapped= 157.0 headrest, 158.0 outlaw-1 Sundown SA-8 + 2 MB Quart 2000's=148.8 headrest, 150.6 outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobtastic14 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 but he just left way too many openings with that video. I'm starting to get the feeling no matter what the video you will feel there is an opening for your comment(s). -Drew I am a United States Military Arts and Crafts Professional. Sand it off, Paint it on. uhoh_45 said: dont be a pussy P give the jeep to drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyk90 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) I'm starting to get the feeling no matter what the video you will feel there is an opening for your comment(s). -Drew Yep, part of it is my fault. Video of the flat cone, free-aired, clamp meters on rms (no 1/2 second peak hold spikes) for 15 seconds. Simple enough? I was waiting for a "hater" comment. Seriously, a different sub? Oh, and how about a lower frequency to really show it's excursion capabilities with 4000 watts free air. That's a good trick to use as well. Well played A team. Another one of the reasons why I couldn't feed over 1000 watts to the xl I had. Didn't think it's really useful to test its free air capabilities with a 60 hz tone. Edited December 21, 2009 by tommyk90 Team B2, Team Audiotechnix, Team Kicker, Team XS Power, Team Sundown, Team Maxxsonics, Team DD2008 Bassrace 130-139.9 Regional and National Champion2006, 2007, 2009, 2010 and 2012 MECA Champion (S1, SR1, S2, S3, S4, DB1) -1 DD 9510F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ .7 ohm strapped=154.2 headrest, 129.2 driveby-2 DD 9510F's + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=154.0 headrest-1 DD 9512F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=153.5 headrest, 131.1 Driveby -2 DD 9512F + 2 B2 Zero1's @ .5 strapped= 157.0 headrest, 158.0 outlaw-1 Sundown SA-8 + 2 MB Quart 2000's=148.8 headrest, 150.6 outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyk90 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) I'm starting to get the feeling no matter what the video you will feel there is an opening for your comment(s). -Drew You know what, on second thought, you are right. No matter what will be shown, most likely I won't be happy. Why? Because as much as they won't say it, they can manipulate the settings to prove whatever point they want. This argument could continue on forever and in the end will essentially accomplish nothing (in my eyes). In the future I suppose I'll just keep my mouth shut and let everyone else say their "oohs" and "aahs" even if there's a lot of questions that need to be asked. But just for fun, I can guess what's going to happen next. A Team will retaliate, everyone will agree with them, and then everyone will think they "owned" me or whatever. I'll do my best to refrain from posting further. Edited December 21, 2009 by tommyk90 Team B2, Team Audiotechnix, Team Kicker, Team XS Power, Team Sundown, Team Maxxsonics, Team DD2008 Bassrace 130-139.9 Regional and National Champion2006, 2007, 2009, 2010 and 2012 MECA Champion (S1, SR1, S2, S3, S4, DB1) -1 DD 9510F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ .7 ohm strapped=154.2 headrest, 129.2 driveby-2 DD 9510F's + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=154.0 headrest-1 DD 9512F + 2 Sundown SAZ2500's @ 1 ohm strapped=153.5 headrest, 131.1 Driveby -2 DD 9512F + 2 B2 Zero1's @ .5 strapped= 157.0 headrest, 158.0 outlaw-1 Sundown SA-8 + 2 MB Quart 2000's=148.8 headrest, 150.6 outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis_finest1 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 If Rusty made 1000 of these subs and said that he would put what ever you wanted on the front like the A TEAM sub (which i thought was pretty bad ass ) how many people would buy the subs any way ? Even if the subs COULDNT take more then 3000 watts testing or not . The aurgments that one is better then the other might really be a valid one but im more then sure the REAL QUESTION IS Will he make any money selling these subs ? ALLAH's the most gracious, he made the universe the most spaciousSeen and heard in all places, but still appear facelessEmbraces all races, all caste and all casesIn every spec of life he's the substance of all traces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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