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The absolute best way to seal a port imo is to glue it to the box with some 5 min epoxy. Good luck ever getting the thing out though. I would just use some liquid nails or even good old silicone.

As far as how far to keep your ports from the rear of the car I'd say at least 4" minimum. I only have my 8" flared port for my spl box about that far away from the side wall of my car and it performs great.

Numbers right fucking now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I may have to mount the ports half in and half out the box to get 4". They are right on the back of the hatch.

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Its sounds better then i expected. Considering its tuned to 43hz.

1993 Mazda Mx-3

Subs: 2 18" DC Audio Lvl 4 D.7

Highs amp: Sundown SAX-100.4

Sub amp: Sundown SAZ-3000D

Electrical:Kinetik 1200 under hood, 2-Kinetik 2400 rear

All 1/0 KnuKonceptz Wire Power/Ground, Big 3, 8Ga Speaker Wire, KnuKonceptz Karma RCA's

Dampening: 120sqft 80Mil Thick Sound Destroyer Mat

Goal: 150 DB 149.9 Street Bass

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I don't reccomend mounting them like that unless it's your last resort. I would move whatever is in front of the box to get that room cause I think it will help you quite a bit. If you mount part of the port in the box which is fine it will throw off your internal volume of the enclosure and will also affect the tuning of the box. I would try my best to push it foward an inch or two more. You could probablyl get away with 3" of space, but it may not do as good as it would if you had 4" or more.

Also whatever that piece of wood is in front of your box needs to go anyway. That is going to fuck up your spl no matter what and needs to be removed right away.

2013 VW Jetta GLI 2.0 Turbo

1 Sundown Audio SCV2000

1 Sundown Audio X15 V2

1 XS Power D3100

Audio Control LC6i

Stock Deck

146.4 sealed on the dash at 37hz

2001 Focus ZX3: RETIRED

Team Sundown Audio, Team XS Power, 2 time NSPL Car 3601-Up Champion, 2 time NSPL Car Hardcore Champion
Highest NSPL Scores to date:
154.3db on the dash sealed at 46hz, 156.2db in the kick at 46hz
155.2db unofficial on dash at 43hz

Posted
I don't reccomend mounting them like that unless it's your last resort. I would move whatever is in front of the box to get that room cause I think it will help you quite a bit. If you mount part of the port in the box which is fine it will throw off your internal volume of the enclosure and will also affect the tuning of the box. I would try my best to push it foward an inch or two more. You could probablyl get away with 3" of space, but it may not do as good as it would if you had 4" or more.

Also whatever that piece of wood is in front of your box needs to go anyway. That is going to fuck up your spl no matter what and needs to be removed right away.

Thats where the amp is mounted. I could remove it. I'll get like 2" doing that but then I would have to put the amp on the back of the box. I have the amps and batterys in front of the box. I wanted to keep the hatch as empty as possible. I'm about to put the seals and the spoiler on. Then i'll take the car up to the shop to do some burps. to see where i'm at now.

1993 Mazda Mx-3

Subs: 2 18" DC Audio Lvl 4 D.7

Highs amp: Sundown SAX-100.4

Sub amp: Sundown SAZ-3000D

Electrical:Kinetik 1200 under hood, 2-Kinetik 2400 rear

All 1/0 KnuKonceptz Wire Power/Ground, Big 3, 8Ga Speaker Wire, KnuKonceptz Karma RCA's

Dampening: 120sqft 80Mil Thick Sound Destroyer Mat

Goal: 150 DB 149.9 Street Bass

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Well here they are!!

42 hz

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43 hz

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44hz

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45hz

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From there things started to drop. I'll try what Nightshade said and test some more tomorrow

1993 Mazda Mx-3

Subs: 2 18" DC Audio Lvl 4 D.7

Highs amp: Sundown SAX-100.4

Sub amp: Sundown SAZ-3000D

Electrical:Kinetik 1200 under hood, 2-Kinetik 2400 rear

All 1/0 KnuKonceptz Wire Power/Ground, Big 3, 8Ga Speaker Wire, KnuKonceptz Karma RCA's

Dampening: 120sqft 80Mil Thick Sound Destroyer Mat

Goal: 150 DB 149.9 Street Bass

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get rid of that board and mount the amps at the back under your ports

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92 explorer

- 4 Atomic Apxx 15s duel .7s - 4rth order bandpass wall -4 powerbass XA-3000D's - 16 8volt batts wired to 16 volts - (9+/9-) runs 0gauge - 152.3 Db @ 29hz

current build

97 chevy lumina4 - 1 Atomic Apx 18 - 6 cube slot port trunk sealed off - 1 powerbass XA-3000D - 2 optima G31s in spare tire18 1 run 1/0

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Going to try that tomorrow and move the box forward some more

1993 Mazda Mx-3

Subs: 2 18" DC Audio Lvl 4 D.7

Highs amp: Sundown SAX-100.4

Sub amp: Sundown SAZ-3000D

Electrical:Kinetik 1200 under hood, 2-Kinetik 2400 rear

All 1/0 KnuKonceptz Wire Power/Ground, Big 3, 8Ga Speaker Wire, KnuKonceptz Karma RCA's

Dampening: 120sqft 80Mil Thick Sound Destroyer Mat

Goal: 150 DB 149.9 Street Bass

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1. move that board and find somewhere else to mount the amp weather it be on the back of the box or where ever you can find.

2. how long are your ports from flare to flare?

if they are uncut there is a huge problem right there. They need to be much shorter than that and by the looks of your peak you have the box tuned too low. What are the external dimensions of the box too and I'll double check internal volume for you.

3. if the ports are that long I'd cut them down to 14.5" from flare to flare and that shoudl raise the tuning to 47hz in the box if it's got 6 cubes internally. that should help your score quite a bit in itself.

4. if you want to drive up to Greensboro I'd be glad to help you tune for a day or even build a new box to play around with. I have some 8" sonotube that we could use to make you some 8" flared ports with and I'm thinking 2 of them in a 6 cube box tuned to 46hz so each port would need to be 16.5" from flare to flare. That would be your best bet and if you want to do it we can.

I have the sonotube if you get the fiberglass resin, mat, and bondo we can make you some flares that will kick ass and send your score through the roof of that MX3.

2013 VW Jetta GLI 2.0 Turbo

1 Sundown Audio SCV2000

1 Sundown Audio X15 V2

1 XS Power D3100

Audio Control LC6i

Stock Deck

146.4 sealed on the dash at 37hz

2001 Focus ZX3: RETIRED

Team Sundown Audio, Team XS Power, 2 time NSPL Car 3601-Up Champion, 2 time NSPL Car Hardcore Champion
Highest NSPL Scores to date:
154.3db on the dash sealed at 46hz, 156.2db in the kick at 46hz
155.2db unofficial on dash at 43hz

Posted
1. move that board and find somewhere else to mount the amp weather it be on the back of the box or where ever you can find.

2. how long are your ports from flare to flare?

if they are uncut there is a huge problem right there. They need to be much shorter than that and by the looks of your peak you have the box tuned too low. What are the external dimensions of the box too and I'll double check internal volume for you.

3. if the ports are that long I'd cut them down to 14.5" from flare to flare and that shoudl raise the tuning to 47hz in the box if it's got 6 cubes internally. that should help your score quite a bit in itself.

4. if you want to drive up to Greensboro I'd be glad to help you tune for a day or even build a new box to play around with. I have some 8" sonotube that we could use to make you some 8" flared ports with and I'm thinking 2 of them in a 6 cube box tuned to 46hz so each port would need to be 16.5" from flare to flare. That would be your best bet and if you want to do it we can.

I have the sonotube if you get the fiberglass resin, mat, and bondo we can make you some flares that will kick ass and send your score through the roof of that MX3.

Yea the ports are uncut,And the outside dims are 39H x 20D x17.25H (double baffle). I'll remove the board today and move the box forward then try it again. I still have 2 holes I have to fill. Hopefully I'll pick a fews tenth doing that. I Tuned to 43hz think the box would peak higher. but its peaking where its tuned at. I'll try a few things few then I'll take you up on your offer. I have lots of resin and filler. A guy sold me 5 gallon of resin and harder for 100 buck. And I still have a gallon of filler I haven't even open yet.

How would tunning that high effect my ability to play music. I don't want a fart box. I'll be doing Street Beatz this year to. You can only play music with them. So I need a setup that can do both. I would like to brup over 150's and play music in the high 140's

1993 Mazda Mx-3

Subs: 2 18" DC Audio Lvl 4 D.7

Highs amp: Sundown SAX-100.4

Sub amp: Sundown SAZ-3000D

Electrical:Kinetik 1200 under hood, 2-Kinetik 2400 rear

All 1/0 KnuKonceptz Wire Power/Ground, Big 3, 8Ga Speaker Wire, KnuKonceptz Karma RCA's

Dampening: 120sqft 80Mil Thick Sound Destroyer Mat

Goal: 150 DB 149.9 Street Bass

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Posted

I just calculated your box and this is what I came up with. Right now you have 6 cubes before any displacements. With sub displacement you have 5.6 cubes and with resin and bracing you probably have around 5.5 cubes. That tunes your box to 44hz right now with the ports full length. Maybe it's too much port area for your car idk. Rignt now that is 15sqin per cuft but I would think would be fine for spl, not music so much though.

If you cut the ports down it's not going to play music that great at all. You may have to go the route that I did and have two different boxes, one for each application.

2013 VW Jetta GLI 2.0 Turbo

1 Sundown Audio SCV2000

1 Sundown Audio X15 V2

1 XS Power D3100

Audio Control LC6i

Stock Deck

146.4 sealed on the dash at 37hz

2001 Focus ZX3: RETIRED

Team Sundown Audio, Team XS Power, 2 time NSPL Car 3601-Up Champion, 2 time NSPL Car Hardcore Champion
Highest NSPL Scores to date:
154.3db on the dash sealed at 46hz, 156.2db in the kick at 46hz
155.2db unofficial on dash at 43hz

Posted
I just calculated your box and this is what I came up with. Right now you have 6 cubes before any displacements. With sub displacement you have 5.6 cubes and with resin and bracing you probably have around 5.5 cubes. That tunes your box to 44hz right now with the ports full length. Maybe it's too much port area for your car idk. Rignt now that is 15sqin per cuft but I would think would be fine for spl, not music so much though.

If you cut the ports down it's not going to play music that great at all. You may have to go the route that I did and have two different boxes, one for each application.

It plays music very well. But anyway I removed the board and move the box forward about 2-3" . I also think one of the subs was unhooked. It could of been from when i pull it out the box but I really don't think so. I got a few things to do. then i'll check some numbers. I'll so try plugging 1 of the ports and see what I come up with. I will post in a few hours.

1993 Mazda Mx-3

Subs: 2 18" DC Audio Lvl 4 D.7

Highs amp: Sundown SAX-100.4

Sub amp: Sundown SAZ-3000D

Electrical:Kinetik 1200 under hood, 2-Kinetik 2400 rear

All 1/0 KnuKonceptz Wire Power/Ground, Big 3, 8Ga Speaker Wire, KnuKonceptz Karma RCA's

Dampening: 120sqft 80Mil Thick Sound Destroyer Mat

Goal: 150 DB 149.9 Street Bass

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