ccrider540 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 has anyone ever used this stuff in an area where its hot because i was thinking about just doing my floor and some panels with it then doing my doors and roof with second skin. i heard some people say it would peel off in heat but others say it doesnt so idk. any advice? 1)Alpine CDA-117 1)hifonics brutus bxi 2610 1)hifonics zeus zxi6410 3)Alpine sps-600c 2)Fi BL d1 15s fully loaded
devil4u2c Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 the floor shouldn't be a problem, ya got good ole' gravity to help on that one, I wouldn't do it on any vertical panels though, not without spray adhesive to kinda help out.
ccrider540 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Posted March 25, 2010 the floor shouldn't be a problem, ya got good ole' gravity to help on that one, I wouldn't do it on any vertical panels though, not without spray adhesive to kinda help out. what would be a decent adhesive? 3M 90? 1)Alpine CDA-117 1)hifonics brutus bxi 2610 1)hifonics zeus zxi6410 3)Alpine sps-600c 2)Fi BL d1 15s fully loaded
J00bles Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 what would be a decent adhesive? 3M 90? spray adhesive may work, but you're better off using a heat gun to make the rubber "sticky" and then place it where it needs to go. use it on the floor, but save your money and put a better dampener eveywhere else. dynamat, raamat, fatmat, hushmat, second skin, etc will all work better. 8 DC Level 4 M2 15s2 DC Audio 5ks26^2 clamshell tuned to 30hz9 Kinetik 1400sMechman externally reg'd 340 S seriesin a 99 Jeep Cherokee Click to see J00bles' Youtube Channel
HHR Ed Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 heres what I just comment on EXO something er other's you tubie. @ EXOcontrailto I have indeed used Peel N seal and about 10 other mat type deadener products. I have enormous experience with just about anything you can think of in the car audio world, and being an engineer, I test the crap out of everything. But I dont have to explain, I am HHR Ed for bajeebus sake. -Peel N Seal and similar products use a rubberized asphalt as a filler and a mild adhesive. The problem is that this material softens with heat. Also, its water/air proof structure traps small air bubbles underneath the mat when being applied. These pockets of air expand when heated, further pushing the mat away from the surface. Then the softened mat stretches and pulls away from the surface. Also, come winter, the rubberized asphalt dries and hardens, causing cracking as well as the adhesive drying out. So it will never stick back down. Also, you need 2-3 layers to equal the same sound deadening rating of a thick, butyl based mat such as Second Skin Dampifier Pro, so price must be taken into account for multi layers. Its good to let your viewers know of cheap alternatives, but let them know why its cheap, and what they can expect from it. Ed Lester ShowtimeSPL Host Showtime Electronics Video MarketingMy old Build Loghttp://www.stevemead...08/#entry511451http://www.youtube.com/showtimespl 5 time dB Drag Finalist Last ride 2007 HHR, current dB 153.5 and bass race 149.4 dB. 153.0 dB on music New Ride, 2008 HHR SS. Build under way. Loudest score ever = 171dB 2009 dB Drag Racing, North American Points Champion
HHR Ed Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 also, I dont suggest spray adhesive. one type of adhesive under another type creates bonding issues. And, spray adhesive isnt the best on metal in the heat. Ed Lester ShowtimeSPL Host Showtime Electronics Video MarketingMy old Build Loghttp://www.stevemead...08/#entry511451http://www.youtube.com/showtimespl 5 time dB Drag Finalist Last ride 2007 HHR, current dB 153.5 and bass race 149.4 dB. 153.0 dB on music New Ride, 2008 HHR SS. Build under way. Loudest score ever = 171dB 2009 dB Drag Racing, North American Points Champion
dwright27 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 great read ed. thwnks for that bro. 2006 F-150 4 DC XL M2 18's Walled Daily Driver XS Power 4 DC 3.5kw Team DC Team S.P.L. Lot of Audio Technix and 1/0 DC Audio Dealer American Bass Dealer XS Power Dealer Audio Technix Dealer
ccrider540 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Posted March 25, 2010 also, I dont suggest spray adhesive. one type of adhesive under another type creates bonding issues. And, spray adhesive isnt the best on metal in the heat. haha well i guess im gunna have to second skin the whole thing then haha 1)Alpine CDA-117 1)hifonics brutus bxi 2610 1)hifonics zeus zxi6410 3)Alpine sps-600c 2)Fi BL d1 15s fully loaded
ccrider540 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Posted March 25, 2010 also, I dont suggest spray adhesive. one type of adhesive under another type creates bonding issues. And, spray adhesive isnt the best on metal in the heat. oh ya what about fat mat? 1)Alpine CDA-117 1)hifonics brutus bxi 2610 1)hifonics zeus zxi6410 3)Alpine sps-600c 2)Fi BL d1 15s fully loaded
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