Guest jbinn Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ok , so my friend has a Cargo Van (it's rather large) and it running two Kicker COMP 15" (250RMS each) off a MONO 300.1D MTX thunder (so subs arent even getting half RMS)and the van shakes pretty well (not loud at all really) but shakes nice for the setup... I know underground brands like (audioque , FI , Sundown , Soundstream , DD, DC) but he already has two of these and he wants to expand slowly and do something nobody around here has done... We were thinking of getting this setup: Hes going to wall the middle of the van right behind the B pillar (sliding door)so he can still have seats right infront of the wall (this will leave about as much area as a SUV from hatch to window, which eliminates a lot of space, this van is HUGE) and he was going to buy 4 Kicker COMP 15" (so that would total 6) and make a box that's 8-10cubes @ 35hz (each comp requires 1.5cu ported) and going to run a single SoundStream PCX2000.1D (rated 2000RMS @ 14.4v) this would be MORE than enough power for 6, and then next summer he wants to get 4 more and another PCX2000.1D (eventually he wants 12, but hes only buying 4 per summer until completion) would this be louder than two 18" FI BTL's? I figured I can get these comps for about $120 a pair so I can get 4 for about half the price of a fully loaded BTL. I KNOW I KNOW Fi is a better brand, but I just think money wise and step by step this setup could potentially be LOUD ,i've seen 4 15" comps make some bad flex heck I threw his two 15's in my jeep and they kept up with my Fi 15" SSD loaded. So I figure 10 of these would be the price of two BTL 18's loaded and be a little more RMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jbinn Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 basically to sum it up lol: what'll be louder? 2x BTL loaded 18" @35HZ off 4000RMS or 12x Kicker COMP 15" @35HZ off 4000RMS (would be about $200 less than the BTL which would help costs for the amps) 250x12 = 3000RMS 2000x2 = 4000RMS Will cone area beat wattage? or does that not matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayP Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Fi SSD's arn't so bad. 800rms and under $200 for a 15" brand new off their website. :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanitarium Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 big waste of time and money. sell the stuff and start buying better. you knew the answer before you started the thread, don't look for a ray of light here, shit sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jbinn Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 How does that suck? lol if two 15" comps are as loud as my single Fi 15" on the SAME power how is it a waste when two 15" comps are about half the price of my Fi SSD? money wise it seems a lot better , and sice hes running a van he has all the room he needs... Yeah in my jeep I need FI's because I wont have 12 comps in the back of that, but if he can save like $250 with this route and get just as loud why not? BTW where are you seeing 15" Fi SSD's for under $200? they're $199 NOT including shipping or any options... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team_DC-Derrick Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 if hes really set on it, build the best box you can, maybe get some help from some people on here, with a really efficient box I dont see why this thing cant be really loud. even off the power that hes willing to run Quote The DC Integra 3 18s to 6 15 build log Team_DC-Derrick's Youtube Team DC Audio where theres a will theres a wall....... I just realized Steve has reach Voldemort status, over on JP's site he is the one who will not be named....."We dont speak his name over here, fearing it will destroy us" LOL not even in hush tones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwright27 Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 basically to sum it up lol: what'll be louder? 2x BTL loaded 18" @35HZ off 4000RMS or 12x Kicker COMP 15" @35HZ off 4000RMS (would be about $200 less than the BTL which would help costs for the amps) 250x12 = 3000RMS 2000x2 = 4000RMS Will cone area beat wattage? or does that not matter. 12 15's will be much louder then 2 18s ..... Quote 2006 F-150 4 DC XL M2 18's Walled Daily Driver XS Power 4 DC 3.5kw Team DC Team S.P.L. Lot of Audio Technix and 1/0 DC Audio Dealer American Bass Dealer XS Power Dealer Audio Technix Dealer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jbinn Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 if hes really set on it, build the best box you can, maybe get some help from some people on here, with a really efficient box I dont see why this thing cant be really loud. even off the power that hes willing to run Yeah, I mean we ALL know those companies I listed are way better, but I've heard with my own ears what even TWO 15" Comps do in the right enclosure/SUV (he put his in mine and beat out my Fi SSD 15" loaded at the same RMS) So I figure 12 of these things has to do some damage in a wall... Yeah I will need a lot of help , I want this enclosure to be BIG (I think im going to need more than 8-10cubes) and I plan to run 3000-4000RMS depending how many woofers/efficientcy of the amplifier. You have to think, with the wall the van will be cut virtually in HALF. So it'll be almost like running an SUV. I'm thinking upgrade wise, he doesnt have a good job or money to throw around or save up to drop on a single $500 subwoofer , let alone two... The price for the 10 comps would be $600 he would save $400 just on subwoofers. and I think if these comps are running @ their RMS they should last a long time... this is going to be a long project spanning from 4 to 6 to 10 to 12, basically going up as the RMS increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianabobo Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 honestly man, its personal preference ur doing this for u and ur friend not to satisfy anyone else on here. no offense to anyone on here, so if u want ot be unque and on a budget do it, its gunna be nasty, personal preference is always guna come out ahead ha. id do it if i had the money go with what u feel comfortable doing as well Quote 1998 VW Jetta- SLOW N LOW 12" TC sounds 3hp BB2400.1 Kenwood Exceleon HU Kinetik HC800-works for 2ohm loads:D My youtube Video's CHECK THEM OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jbinn Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 hey guys thank ill keep u updated on it as well lol my first big project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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