Boon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Oh for sure, it's way preferable to get 1000w by having, say, 125vac @ 8 amps with a ~16 ohm coil instead of 31vac @ 31 amps from a 1 ohm coil. Then your voltage drop across your tinsel leads is much, much less which means more power to the coil and less heat and burnt tinsels. I've seen 95vac(rms) on the output of my Stetsoms and that was running them off 12v input. So they're still trying pretty hard to get the voltage up - that still works out around 2200wrms at 4 ohms (the amps run up to 15khz too so you could potentially drive the hell out of any car-audio front stage) Half the issue is finding output FETs that have high enough Vds (e.g. 200v in the Brazilian amps) while still having massive Ids so you can use minimal parts and keep the footprint down. High Vds(max) = High Rds(on) = low Ids(max) While I'm still not completely convinced by the Brazilian way of doing it (I think the output FETs in a 10k are switching over 1000wrms each) I do prefer it over the Korean/Chinese technique of 'lets use this 5 year old design and just double all the components' Admittedly the switching and filtering is still dirty as hell though But full credit to them for trying. Can't we just go back to the good old days of modulating the 12v that comes from your battery directly EDIT: I'm told the internal working voltage on a 6000GTi is like 400vdc which is why if you blow them up, even Crown won't work on them. Screw poking around inside that with a scope when it's turned on, a SAZ-3000D kicks you hard enough when you put your finger in the wrong place 10.x volts fo' life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corona_jeff Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 DD98hoe, I sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15 lowz Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I would say get the 20q problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDMstang65 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Oh for sure, it's way preferable to get 1000w by having, say, 125vac @ 8 amps with a ~16 ohm coil instead of 31vac @ 31 amps from a 1 ohm coil. Then your voltage drop across your tinsel leads is much, much less which means more power to the coil and less heat and burnt tinsels. I've seen 95vac(rms) on the output of my Stetsoms and that was running them off 12v input. So they're still trying pretty hard to get the voltage up - that still works out around 2200wrms at 4 ohms (the amps run up to 15khz too so you could potentially drive the hell out of any car-audio front stage) Half the issue is finding output FETs that have high enough Vds (e.g. 200v in the Brazilian amps) while still having massive Ids so you can use minimal parts and keep the footprint down. High Vds(max) = High Rds(on) = low Ids(max) While I'm still not completely convinced by the Brazilian way of doing it (I think the output FETs in a 10k are switching over 1000wrms each) I do prefer it over the Korean/Chinese technique of 'lets use this 5 year old design and just double all the components' Admittedly the switching and filtering is still dirty as hell though But full credit to them for trying. Can't we just go back to the good old days of modulating the 12v that comes from your battery directly EDIT: I'm told the internal working voltage on a 6000GTi is like 400vdc which is why if you blow them up, even Crown won't work on them. Screw poking around inside that with a scope when it's turned on, a SAZ-3000D kicks you hard enough when you put your finger in the wrong place Nothing like modulating a DC motor controller and getting cheap power/sound out of it right? ...i'm glad somebody else sees it instead of being a lemming.... thank you. Authorized Ascendant Audio Dealer! Message me for information. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough -Albert Einstein "I have a plausible excuse for not liking you. And you know why." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Lo Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Good info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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