You know what I do have a viper alarm that stoped working after the swap, I wonder if that has somthing to do with it. Its a 96 town car which has a massive electrical system but the optima lasted much longer under the same conditions. I also have 8 optima group 31 in the trunk for the hydro system that are also 5 years old and I only charge those 3 times a year and they are still good.
I think I will try a bigger xs power battery this time, cyber monday is comming up, I wonder if I can find a good deal on one. Also I think I'll get a battery tender too, definitely worth it. Thanks on all the replys.