Baydestrian

That's why I'm really hoping they'll add it as a subscription

From what I understand b/c you now you have to use your disc to play the games like with the 360, no more loading to the console and tossing the game. Being able to have my friend "borrow" my game while I still got to play would have been great. Just the other day my friend asked to borrow either BF3 or BO2 but I was like naw b/c I play both of them still

B/C of this you have to give your friends your discs now, which sucks b/c the family circle would have been great. If they implement it later on for an extra $10 a year I would do it. Actually, $100 more isn't that bad considering its with Kinect. The PS Eye is $60 and IDK about move but its almost the same total if you were to buy those I believe. Plus the Kinect is much more advanced This was a good move on MS though, less shit for those PS4 fanboys to talk about now

They making games either up til 2015 or through 2015 and rumors are the servers will be shut down in 2017.

Ok been reading it and now people are saying that PS4 games were also being demoed on PC and they told them that before they played. Also, this picture is for the game LocoCycle and it was the dev's choice to use a PC not MS since the X1 version of the game is being ported from 360 and not ready yet. The picture is being blown out of proportion and people says "ALL X1'S MUST BE FAKE!". Only demo's were on PC, at least for this game, actual games like Ryse for X1 & Drive Club for PS4 were actually on the consoles.

I'm only on pg 4 but ppl are saying its actually a 680

Good thing I'll have a few months to consider and hopefully new details should come out in that time before I decide. XBOX One would just be the easier option for me but would it be the best option.

Yeah, I run off Wifi and I do play every single day anyways as of right now. I did forget about the hacking, that is something to consider too. I was thinking you could tape the lens or just turn it up in the air. Still a little creepy though lol.

N8, the Kinect always on and watching you doesn't bother you? Or the fact it has a every 24hr sign on check to make sure you are connected to the internet? Doesn't super bother me but is kinda creepy. I mentioned it, but really as minor as it may sound, switching from XBOX back to PS controller would def suck. I've also considered the fact that, hey, I've already given MS a bunch of money why not just keep it going? Having to buy a new headset is going to suck. I'm gonna stick with Turtle Beach since my X12's have been solid and Tritton/Astro's headsets are expensive as fawk. Doubtful but it would be nice if they were to offer an adapter to use the old 2.5mm mic plug. Straight up, the day I get my new console I will need to have a headset too

Shit, I didn't even consider that. Fuuuuu....I guess my original plan of waiting til 2014 for a new console is where its at and I'll have to decide by Sept which console so I can cancel my XBL subscription if need be. I'm glad I made this thread lol, you helped me think about some things I didn't even consider! Oh yeah, this is a new XBOX exclusive game. Not really my cup of tea but yeah

I think what I will do is just hold off on COD Ghosts/BF4 until maybe February or March of next year. That gives the consoles a few months to show themselves, see what people say. If they are having issues buy both those games for 360. If one of the consoles is looking solid then Ill get that console with those games. I really wish XBOX One was backwards compatible.

Wasn't it that PS3 had the better computing so they had to make mutli-platform titles for 360 then port to other consoles so that it was easier? This is just what I think I remember. Very much thought about that already Wasted. Once I got my XBOX the PS2 collected dust til I gave it to my friend a year or two ago lol. Very true I should wait until the kinks are worked out with the systems to see who's is looking better. I guess I didn't consider that I can stick with 360 games until 2014 Fall when the next COD/BF games will be out and get a system then. GTA V which I am def getting in Sept won't be next gen, at least for a long time so that's one good thing I won't have to worry about. Just checked and my XBL subscription renews Sept 15

Yeah I was planning on doing that Wasted, still might wait til after the new year. I'm lucky and didn't get my XBOX til 2009 so its be almost flaw free, although its been freezing randomly while playing BO2 the past couple of months but oh well, hopefully it holds up for a lot longer. I forget when I started my yearly subscription, will have to look into that. I know quite a bit of them will still be playing 360 games but like I said in my 2nd post, those games I buy for 360 instead of PS4 will be useless when I go to upgrade my console in 2015 when they stop making 360 games, when I could already have them for PS4 and continue playing them into 2015. You know what I mean? @Pro, yeah most my buddies had XBOX so that's what I went with of course. Now I need to talk to the ones I mostly play with and see what they are planning on doing. Good to know the community is pretty much the same. I've met about 5 chick gamers on XBOX over the past month that are chill as fuck to play with haha. Hopefully PS has some of them if I make the switch. I don't really play any XBOX exclusives like Halo and what not. God of War though has always been a game I've wanted to try. Also, the whole kinect & internet always on is a privacy concern. This is the video that really got me thinking right now:

That's true but I never really played used games honestly. I think the only used game I have is NFS: HP and I don't even really play it lol. Another thing I just thought of, if I were to wait til 2015 and still buy 360 I'd be wasting money since I would need a new console a year later and those 360 games would be useless essentially. BF4 PS4 bundle is $460 from Gamestop. That would be the one for me.

I'm in a conflict, I'm now thinking PS4 is the better option for me money wise. This may actually help some other people on here who aren't sure either. 1. XBOX One is $500...add in $60 for Live...total is $560 2. PS4 is $400....add in $50 for PS Plus....total is $450 (Playstation Plus is now required for multiplayer) So I save $110...except here is the thing: If I keep my XBL Gold subscription so I can play all my games own now still it will only be a savings of $50. Then I have to weigh the fact of, will I even really want to keep playing those games like Black Ops 2 & BF3 when I can play COD: Ghosts & BF4 & GTA 5 on PS4 with next gen graphics? Also how many of my current XBL friends will even be playing them is another thing I need to consider. They will continue to make 360 games until 2015 so I could also just wait and buy either an XBOX One or PS4 then, but like above how many of my current friends will be playing the games still and I need to figure out if any of them are jumping ship to PS4 and how many of them. Another cost I need to think about, either way I'm going to need a new headset. XBOX changed their mic port so my current X12's won't work for it and X12 won't work with Playstation. So that's another at least $50, which is the $50 I save if I keep my XBL Gold. Also, its gonna suck getting used to the PS controller again. I've only played PS3 maybe 2 or 3 times. I had a Playstation & PS2 before, hell I played my PS2 up until 2009 when I got my 360! For you current PSN people out there, what is the online community like? Even better if any of you have both 360 & PS3 so you can compare.

Yeah I downloaded Lost Woods years ago. I have another one, its the dubstep version of the main Zelda theme but I can't find it on YouTube. It was actually funny driving around my city with Lost Woods slapping hella hard LMFAO

Good map pack Encore: Ok map, nothing too special, there are some crates at part you should have been able to climb up on to look at the main stage. If they added that I think it would have made the map better Magma: Fun map overall, lots of routes to run and you can't really camp on it. Only thing is the whole big hype about the magma coming down never happened anytime I played or I guess I wasn't in the area Vertigo: Cool map, best for Domination. Good jump spots and head glitch areas. Studio: Really fun, of course because its a remake of Firing Range...only thing is that its not as spread out so it plays kind of different. They also took out a few lines of sight that were useful which is a bummer. Mob of the Dead: This shit is confusing as fuck and honestly you will never know what to do unless you watch TmarTn's walkthroughs on YouTube. Looks really really good though

This is one of the best COD games IMO. Can't wait to play this later. TmarTn put up a bunch of short gameplays of it already since he got to play it early. One achievement for Mob of the Dead you have to build a plane and it will take you to the GG Bridge and you have to survive a round there, I believe 15 or higher then it takes you back

I'm still very much interested, Treyarch>>>IW or w/e the company is now

I'll be preordering GTA V for sure, most likely through Amazon with the same day release delivery I got Black Ops 1 and BF3 through Amazon and it works out great b/c UPS delivers at about 1-2pm. Only time I did a midnight release pick up w/o preorder was Black Ops 2, that worked out fantastically especially since I didn't even plan on going after work to get it b/c I figured they would close by 1am but stayed open til 2am