Dylank811 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) Hey guys, I'm not really running a very high wattage system (Less than 1000w) but my car seems to have a hard time keeping up with it. The most noticeable thing is my RPMs always dipping down so low my car idles super rough. My alternator and battery are both very new, but not high output. Just a Duralast and standard alternator replacement. Is it normal that a pretty weak system would put an overwhelming load on my car, or does this indicate a problem in my electricals? System is Focal Solid 600w amp and Sony Xplod "480w" amp (yeah right). The Sony is on my mids/highs. Edited July 21, 2011 by Dylank811 Quote 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooTxBeeR Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 One thing I can suggest that will always help is the big 3 upgrade. I don't know to much about eletrcical otherwise so hopefully someone else can help you out. Quote On 11/20/2012 at 8:54 PM, AMI CUSTOMS said: Turned mine up today at a light, guy next to me his steering wheel started moving and he looked over at me like I was a magician lol. On 5/9/2012 at 8:45 PM, skittlesRgood said: fuck the plating. look at what the main metal used is. you could buy unicorn blood plated terminals but if its just covering up dog shit, whats the point On 4/10/2013 at 12:26 PM, mrd6 said: I'll admit, half way through sanding that fiberglass in the rain and cold while I was all itchy I was definitely starting to question why i was doing this haha Soon To Be '04 Ford Escape US Alternator 280A Hairpin D4800 Under the Hood (6) XP3000's in Rear 1/0 SHCA & XS Power 4 runs to back TORK2 kit from Tony @ CE Auto Supply Pioneer DEH-80PRS DD AW6.5 (2) per door *Tweeter Unkown* DD SS4a & C3d (2) SCV4000 @ .5Ohm (2) 15" Sundown Zv5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennan88 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 im running 1200 rms stock alt, duralast gold under the hood, and a red in the back. but my car already idles 600-700 rpm. when i upgraded to just the dg under the hood and big 3, before the second battery, i noticed a huge difference. voltage stayed better, and way more esponsive at recharging. id try to do a big 3 upgrade, see how that helps, then a bigger battery under the hood if need be. as far as your rpm dipping, if it does that with you car in park and stereo down all the way then i dont believe that has anything to do with your system. Quote '04 Walled Monte Carlo daily driver2 DD 9518i SC D.7 DD M4a 2 sets RF T165-2s (soon to be 3) RF T400.4 Mechman 320 XS D3100, D3400 https://www.youtube.com/user/OffensiveProduction1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan2427 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 What kinda car/truck? I have a low charging system too tho, 12.8 volts! Haha the alternator took a shit on mine tho. But do the big three, somethin don't seem right because I doubt that those are RMS watts you gave us. Check for loose ground wires too Quote 2003 GMC Yukon Denali Alpine CDA 117 Redoing Mids/Highs 4 Runs of 1/0 Knukonceptz 2+, 2- 4 Deka 9A31's in back (Stock underhood) 250 amp Alt. AQ20K 2 18" Crossfire XS V.2's 12 cubes 33hz 149sq inches of port! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylank811 Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Thanks for the help, I've heard alot about the big three but it honestly never crossed my mind. Haha bonehead. And no, it doesn't do it until big bass hits and I don't actually have park because it's a 5 speed haha. If you have the time, check out my last video. Those subs are gone now, but even that setup was dropping it to about 500 RPM. I'm about to throw considerably more power in the trunk though. It would be awesome if it killed my car! But yeah I'll look into the big 3 upgrade. Quote 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylank811 Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) That video is in my build log btw. And the RMS on my system in the video is 470w x 1 @ 2 ohms on my subs, and 160w x 2 @ 2 ohms. The last one is estimated because all I know is the Sony's RMS is 80 x 2 @ 4 ohms, but I'm running two speakers per channel. It's a Nissan 200sx Edited July 15, 2011 by Dylank811 Quote 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooTxBeeR Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Yeah if your going to put more power in, make sure you can if your having problems like this with lower power, also by any chance you know what Amperage your new alternator are at? Quote On 11/20/2012 at 8:54 PM, AMI CUSTOMS said: Turned mine up today at a light, guy next to me his steering wheel started moving and he looked over at me like I was a magician lol. On 5/9/2012 at 8:45 PM, skittlesRgood said: fuck the plating. look at what the main metal used is. you could buy unicorn blood plated terminals but if its just covering up dog shit, whats the point On 4/10/2013 at 12:26 PM, mrd6 said: I'll admit, half way through sanding that fiberglass in the rain and cold while I was all itchy I was definitely starting to question why i was doing this haha Soon To Be '04 Ford Escape US Alternator 280A Hairpin D4800 Under the Hood (6) XP3000's in Rear 1/0 SHCA & XS Power 4 runs to back TORK2 kit from Tony @ CE Auto Supply Pioneer DEH-80PRS DD AW6.5 (2) per door *Tweeter Unkown* DD SS4a & C3d (2) SCV4000 @ .5Ohm (2) 15" Sundown Zv5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10intn Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 an easy start is the big 3, helps everything flow a little better and thats always good. beyond that, start with upgrading as money becomes available to a better battery up front, maybe even a larger group size if it will fit. not sure about your particular vehicle, but also changing the idle speed up 2-300rpms may make a noticeable impact on how many amps your stock alt puts out at idle Quote 1969 Chevy Chevelle 20/22" staggered Bonspeed Huntingtons wrapped in Nitto INVO's Mechman 250amp cs144 alt w/AVBM Kinetik 1800 main battery/Kinetik 2400 in the trunk Pioneer AVH-3200dvd Headunit (2) sets of Hybrid Audio Technologies Imagine components up front (2) DD 3512's d4 coils Sundown sax100.4 component amp Sundown saz-3000d subwoofer amp 5ft^3 box tuned to 34hz MY BUILD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylank811 Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 No, I don't know what it is. But it's from Advance Auto, so I'm sure it's nothing special haha. Quote 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylank811 Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 an easy start is the big 3, helps everything flow a little better and thats always good. beyond that, start with upgrading as money becomes available to a better battery up front, maybe even a larger group size if it will fit. not sure about your particular vehicle, but also changing the idle speed up 2-300rpms may make a noticeable impact on how many amps your stock alt puts out at idle Okay I'll look into changing the idle speed. Do you know of high output alternators that don't cost $550 a piece like Mechmans? Quote 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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