BassJunkie Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 And you will find tons of articles stating you can hear the difference. I know i can tell between D and A/B Not saying i dont run down, but if i could afford to run at 4 and get the power i need i would. x2. I don't care how many people try to tell me theres no way I can tell the difference I sure as shit believe I can hear the difference. Quote 1986 C20 Suburban 9 American Bass XFL 15's B2 M1MKII 14v XS Power Batteries Maxwell Caps Acoustical energy is free. Electrical energy is not you havent lived until you've hit a screw with a router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin_115 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 This "article" is nothing but a big advertizement for JL and Alpine, not that there's anything wrong with them. The writer is the owner of a car audio shop and they obviously sell those products. Quote Mids/Highs: stock Bang & Olufsen Lows: Image Dynamics IDMax 12v.3 Power: Sony Xplod XM-D9001GTR:Knukonceptz 4 gauge Box: 1.75 cu/ft Sealed Past: Pioneer Premier TS-W1207 (2)/ Rockford Fosgate P210/ Image Dynamics ID10V.3/ Infinity Reference 311A/ Audiopipe AP-18001D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobebassbudds Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 ×3 id love to run 4 ohm to everything including my doors but my amp is running lower to get the power i want Quote 2 12ks and i dont know what to do build in the works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 And you will find tons of articles stating you can hear the difference. I know i can tell between D and A/B Not saying i dont run down, but if i could afford to run at 4 and get the power i need i would. With audio being as subjective as it is, there will always be different stories, true. You can tell amp architecture difference in sound? or by the means that A/B is less efficient so the excess power affects the system? Impressive regardless. Lots of amp companies nowadays with full range Class D amps that say you can't tell the difference. Yes, running at 4 would be ideal in the fact that Class D amps at 4ohms are like 90% efficient so you save a lot on power loss at the very least. As you state, running 20-30kW at 4 ohms would get rather pricey wouldn't it. Quote This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Ive tried full range D. It can not control a midbass like a/b can at high volume When you start running a 6" at its limit the D will just start to lose control Ive done straight swaps with both old and new pdx amps vs. My entry level a/b's. In a truck i drive everyday. I can just tell when they cant hang like the audison. And the pdx amp was twice the power. Ill take 75rms a/b all day over 150 full range D Quote 2008 California state record holder 157.2 Bassrace2009 California state record holder 157.0 BassraceRollin 50's 158.7db2009 King of Cali Bassrace2009 USACi score 160.5 @ 42hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I do not think the post of the OP was to say the information was wrong, just misleading. And I believe it is in fact, misleading. No one is arguing points raised by Ray, just that amps stable at 1 ohm run at 1 ohm (although acoustic differences) do not truly pose a greater risk of malfunction being run at 1 ohm as implied by the link. Quote Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Im saying the same thing. Honestly i didnt read the link Just responding to what the op said. All his points were correct, not misleading at all. If the article is saying something different then ill read it tomorrow Edited November 21, 2011 by Ray Quote 2008 California state record holder 157.2 Bassrace2009 California state record holder 157.0 BassraceRollin 50's 158.7db2009 King of Cali Bassrace2009 USACi score 160.5 @ 42hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I only skimmed to here. But This blurb shows that this article is more for new readers. While being true, the correct terminolgy is not being used. The problem that many people run into, is running an amplifier with the incorrect impedance. Let’s say we were to use that same dual voice coil 4 ohm subwoofer with a 2 channel amp bridged. When you bridge a 2 channel amp, you hook up left positive and right negative. You might assume you are simply wiring it as a mono amp, which in a sense you are. The important difference that is often overlooked is when you bridge an amplifier, the amp sees half the impedance at the terminal which means that 2 channel amp would see only 1 ohm. This is extremely low for a 2 channel amplifier, it would be unleashing a lot of more power than it was designed to along with very little control which would in turn cause the amplifier to heat up very quickly and shut down going into protection mode. Over time this will damage the amplifier. Quote 2008 California state record holder 157.2 Bassrace2009 California state record holder 157.0 BassraceRollin 50's 158.7db2009 King of Cali Bassrace2009 USACi score 160.5 @ 42hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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