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Square subs do have more cone. they can sound good but I think round subs will always sound better. That might just be because they are made by kicker though.

the l7 where not built around SQ. i know how they sound, i own 4 of them, fosgate sounds cleaner by far. i still like my l7's though

I wasn't talking about Kicker specifically. Other companies also make square subs. Also, Kicker makes other square ones besides the L7's. :peepwall: Just sayin...


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Posted

SOLO X 18 or FI AUDIO SP4 18 what's better

Your really comparing Kicker subs to Fi ?

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i respect everyones opinion in this forum

CURRENT SYSTEM

(VEHICLE) 2005 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE

(HEAD UNIT) KENWOOD KDC BT848U

(DASHBOARD) INFINITY KAPPA 32.9CF

(FRONT DOOR) JBL P693

(REAR DOOR) KENWOOD EXCELON KFC-X1730

(TWEETER) KICKER KS25 X 2

(SUB WOOFER) COMING SOON

(4 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T1000-4ADCP

(1 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T2500BDCP X 2

(PROCESSORS) AUDIOCONTROL DQXS & EPICENTER & MATRIX PLUS & DDC

(BATTERY) 1 OPTIMA YELLOW TOP

(SIGNAL WIRES) KICKER XI

(POWER CABLES) KICKER PKD1

(SPEAKER WIRE) KICKER 12 GAUGE

(INTERIOR) DYNAMAT

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2 FI SP4 18 COMING SOON

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Posted

just asking cause kicker went down on quality i remember my two 2002 kicker l7 15s hit harder than my current two 2011 l7 15s they dont make them how they use to

CURRENT SYSTEM

(VEHICLE) 2005 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE

(HEAD UNIT) KENWOOD KDC BT848U

(DASHBOARD) INFINITY KAPPA 32.9CF

(FRONT DOOR) JBL P693

(REAR DOOR) KENWOOD EXCELON KFC-X1730

(TWEETER) KICKER KS25 X 2

(SUB WOOFER) COMING SOON

(4 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T1000-4ADCP

(1 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T2500BDCP X 2

(PROCESSORS) AUDIOCONTROL DQXS & EPICENTER & MATRIX PLUS & DDC

(BATTERY) 1 OPTIMA YELLOW TOP

(SIGNAL WIRES) KICKER XI

(POWER CABLES) KICKER PKD1

(SPEAKER WIRE) KICKER 12 GAUGE

(INTERIOR) DYNAMAT

COMING SOON

2 FI SP4 18 COMING SOON

2 XS POWER XP3000 COMING SOON

DC POWER 270XP ALT COMING SOON

Posted

SOLO X 18 or FI AUDIO SP4 18 what's better

Your really comparing Kicker subs to Fi ?

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yeahhh... no.

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Posted

dont get me wrong i started with kickers subs i even had the 2004 & 06 & 08 & 11 models but i think is time to go with round now lol i really like FI AUDIO now those SP4 look very nice

CURRENT SYSTEM

(VEHICLE) 2005 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE

(HEAD UNIT) KENWOOD KDC BT848U

(DASHBOARD) INFINITY KAPPA 32.9CF

(FRONT DOOR) JBL P693

(REAR DOOR) KENWOOD EXCELON KFC-X1730

(TWEETER) KICKER KS25 X 2

(SUB WOOFER) COMING SOON

(4 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T1000-4ADCP

(1 CHANNEL AMP) ROCKFORD FOSGATE T2500BDCP X 2

(PROCESSORS) AUDIOCONTROL DQXS & EPICENTER & MATRIX PLUS & DDC

(BATTERY) 1 OPTIMA YELLOW TOP

(SIGNAL WIRES) KICKER XI

(POWER CABLES) KICKER PKD1

(SPEAKER WIRE) KICKER 12 GAUGE

(INTERIOR) DYNAMAT

COMING SOON

2 FI SP4 18 COMING SOON

2 XS POWER XP3000 COMING SOON

DC POWER 270XP ALT COMING SOON

Posted

The main issue with square subs has always been the corners. They move at different tension rates than the straight sides. A round woofer's surround will have consistent tension all the way around.

The square surround can tension problem can cause non-linear cone movement as well as varying loads on the cone edge.

So linearity and consistent durability is an issue.

Kicker has come up with a great solution for the cones and a pretty good solution for the surrounds. But it is far from perfect. That is why even with more cone area, square subs still have trouble keeping up with the top performing round woofers. They just cant move as much while remaining linear.

/thread :shrug:

On 5/8/2011 at 7:38 PM, Kranny said:
On 5/8/2011 at 7:35 PM, 'Maxim' said:

It hurts me inside when I read stuff like this and remember you're 15

LMFAO so true

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