IBleedMusick Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Spend the money and build some incredible rides that get tons of exposure at national shows (like SEMA) and magazine exposures. Then take that history of success and present it to the companies that you are looking at and then they will consider you. Even then, there are 100 other people building incredible cars so at that point relationships and connections help. Why would any companies give away products to someone simply because they hit up all the shows and can't afford gear for their car. That is who they want to SELL products to. In fact car audio is so dead that you are about the only customers anymore. So good luck finding a company to give away free products to their last few remaining customers. That will put the nail in the coffin of car audio for sure. RIP Car Audio. Glad I am out of that industry! What the Hell are you talking about??? Car Audio may have died down in some areas but it certainly is not dead and further more there are plenty of companies sponsoring cars it's just not an easy thing to get into. Since you are "Out of the Industry" why are you a member of a Car Audio forum. May I add that if you check numbers of some of the popular main stream brands sales in recent years have crept back up, Car Audio is like anything else it has its trends sometimes its hot sometimes its not but best believe it will never die. I am a member of a car audio forum because I am still an audio enthousiast. I am still building vehicles and installing car audio in my own vehicles. I just don't work for car audio company any more. I started in the business in the 80s and some may say that I am glamorizing the past but car audio was a great business at one point with sound quality and installation techniquue being a big focus. Each year it was exciting to see the innovations made at CES. Now with the exception of a few small companies, car audio is all about who can make the cheapest amp with the most power and as long as the amp survives it is a success. Cheap is what sells, that pretty much sums it up and I am glad to be out of that business. Just stating a fact, its a free country. No my friend you are voicing an opinion. Car Audio may not be what "You" think it is but it is still very much alive and very innovative. Some mainstream brands may produce shit products but that don't mean that's what its all about. I mean last time I checked some of the biggest and most popular competitors don't even use the mainstream brands any fool off the street would recognize. Whether or not your believe it this industry is alive and well. With your mind state believe me a lot of us are glad you are out of this industry negativity is what kills and yours was unnecessary. Quote 2013 Dodge Charger Build Log 1996 Ford Explorer XLT 5.0Build Log 2005 Honda Civic LX Coupe Build Log SMD SUPER SELLER!!!!My Selling Feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Spend the money and build some incredible rides that get tons of exposure at national shows (like SEMA) and magazine exposures. Then take that history of success and present it to the companies that you are looking at and then they will consider you. Even then, there are 100 other people building incredible cars so at that point relationships and connections help. Why would any companies give away products to someone simply because they hit up all the shows and can't afford gear for their car. That is who they want to SELL products to. In fact car audio is so dead that you are about the only customers anymore. So good luck finding a company to give away free products to their last few remaining customers. That will put the nail in the coffin of car audio for sure. RIP Car Audio. Glad I am out of that industry! if you dont come off as a bitter shop owner I dont know who does. Fortunately, I have never owned a shop. I have only worked for car audio manufacturers. So I am a bitter car audio industry professional. I have no problem admitting that. But, also, fortunately I work in the pro A/V industry now and still have a great job but I did enjoy car audio and am very sad to see where it has gone. I wouldnt be bitter. Im sure installing some of that high end pro audio would make me far more giddy than anything a car can do. Quote THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueledbysound Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Spend the money and build some incredible rides that get tons of exposure at national shows (like SEMA) and magazine exposures. Then take that history of success and present it to the companies that you are looking at and then they will consider you. Even then, there are 100 other people building incredible cars so at that point relationships and connections help. Why would any companies give away products to someone simply because they hit up all the shows and can't afford gear for their car. That is who they want to SELL products to. In fact car audio is so dead that you are about the only customers anymore. So good luck finding a company to give away free products to their last few remaining customers. That will put the nail in the coffin of car audio for sure. RIP Car Audio. Glad I am out of that industry! What the Hell are you talking about??? Car Audio may have died down in some areas but it certainly is not dead and further more there are plenty of companies sponsoring cars it's just not an easy thing to get into. Since you are "Out of the Industry" why are you a member of a Car Audio forum. May I add that if you check numbers of some of the popular main stream brands sales in recent years have crept back up, Car Audio is like anything else it has its trends sometimes its hot sometimes its not but best believe it will never die. I am a member of a car audio forum because I am still an audio enthousiast. I am still building vehicles and installing car audio in my own vehicles. I just don't work for car audio company any more. I started in the business in the 80s and some may say that I am glamorizing the past but car audio was a great business at one point with sound quality and installation techniquue being a big focus. Each year it was exciting to see the innovations made at CES. Now with the exception of a few small companies, car audio is all about who can make the cheapest amp with the most power and as long as the amp survives it is a success. Cheap is what sells, that pretty much sums it up and I am glad to be out of that business. Just stating a fact, its a free country. No my friend you are voicing an opinion. Car Audio may not be what "You" think it is but it is still very much alive and very innovative. Some mainstream brands may produce shit products but that don't mean that's what its all about. I mean last time I checked some of the biggest and most popular competitors don't even use the mainstream brands any fool off the street would recognize. Whether or not your believe it this industry is alive and well. With your mind state believe me a lot of us are glad you are out of this industry negativity is what kills and yours was unnecessary. My advise to the guy looking for sponsorship was spot on, "friend" and that is coming from someone who has build around a dozen cars for SEMA and had plenty of sponsorship myself. The rest was my opinion, thats cool, I am glad we are all glad. Alive and well is your "opinion". I dont think they guys that worked at Eclipse think it is alive and well. Or Kenwood that got bought up by JVC, or Orion, PPI and ADS that went bankrupt or MB Quart that went under. How about Hifonics that used to be a good brand. Then there are the companies that laid off 1000s of employees combined. Do they think it is "alive and well". Maybe alive but certainly not well. There is a small group of competitors and hardcore guys in the niche that high end audio has because. That does not mean the "industry" is alive and well. That is my opinion based on many facts, This is a forum where people are allowed to express opinions, or I thought it was. Quote Daewoo Leganza with Commodore 64 installed in the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueledbysound Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Spend the money and build some incredible rides that get tons of exposure at national shows (like SEMA) and magazine exposures. Then take that history of success and present it to the companies that you are looking at and then they will consider you. Even then, there are 100 other people building incredible cars so at that point relationships and connections help. Why would any companies give away products to someone simply because they hit up all the shows and can't afford gear for their car. That is who they want to SELL products to. In fact car audio is so dead that you are about the only customers anymore. So good luck finding a company to give away free products to their last few remaining customers. That will put the nail in the coffin of car audio for sure. RIP Car Audio. Glad I am out of that industry! if you dont come off as a bitter shop owner I dont know who does. Fortunately, I have never owned a shop. I have only worked for car audio manufacturers. So I am a bitter car audio industry professional. I have no problem admitting that. But, also, fortunately I work in the pro A/V industry now and still have a great job but I did enjoy car audio and am very sad to see where it has gone. I wouldnt be bitter. Im sure installing some of that high end pro audio would make me far more giddy than anything a car can do. You're right and good point! Hey nice to see you running some Orion. I am building an entire system with Orion right now. Even though no one seems to know about them anymore and they are owned by Directed the product is very solid. Quote Daewoo Leganza with Commodore 64 installed in the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan @ XSpower Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Here is some advice from this side of the business. #1 Don't ask for free stuff. #2 Be professional and don't act like people owe you something. #3 Be able to show what you can bring to the company. #4 Refer back to #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varietyguy Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 My advise to the guy looking for sponsorship was spot on, "friend" and that is coming from someone who has build around a dozen cars for SEMA and had plenty of sponsorship myself. The rest was my opinion, thats cool, I am glad we are all glad. Alive and well is your "opinion". I dont think they guys that worked at Eclipse think it is alive and well. Or Kenwood that got bought up by JVC, or Orion, PPI and ADS that went bankrupt or MB Quart that went under. How about Hifonics that used to be a good brand. Then there are the companies that laid off 1000s of employees combined. Do they think it is "alive and well". Maybe alive but certainly not well. There is a small group of competitors and hardcore guys in the niche that high end audio has because. That does not mean the "industry" is alive and well. That is my opinion based on many facts, This is a forum where people are allowed to express opinions, or I thought it was. So what if companies were bought out or closed down. That doesn't mean that the entire industry is dying. That just means there are a lot of companies and some aren't very profitable. Are you saying that your going to stop buying cars? The automotive industry took a huge hit and the only reason gm didn't officially close is because of the bailout. Are you going to stop watching movies because blockbuster is going bankrupt, and hollywood video closed? There are a lot of businesses closing, it doesn't mean that the industry is dead. Quote 1992 Mazda 323 http://www.stevemead...323-wall-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueledbysound Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Yes, I am no longer buying cars or watching movies. Quote Daewoo Leganza with Commodore 64 installed in the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXsquintyeyesXx Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Thanks everyone. Everyone who gave answers to my questions I appreciate (might not have spelled that right) it. So thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBleedMusick Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Spend the money and build some incredible rides that get tons of exposure at national shows (like SEMA) and magazine exposures. Then take that history of success and present it to the companies that you are looking at and then they will consider you. Even then, there are 100 other people building incredible cars so at that point relationships and connections help. Why would any companies give away products to someone simply because they hit up all the shows and can't afford gear for their car. That is who they want to SELL products to. In fact car audio is so dead that you are about the only customers anymore. So good luck finding a company to give away free products to their last few remaining customers. That will put the nail in the coffin of car audio for sure. RIP Car Audio. Glad I am out of that industry! What the Hell are you talking about??? Car Audio may have died down in some areas but it certainly is not dead and further more there are plenty of companies sponsoring cars it's just not an easy thing to get into. Since you are "Out of the Industry" why are you a member of a Car Audio forum. May I add that if you check numbers of some of the popular main stream brands sales in recent years have crept back up, Car Audio is like anything else it has its trends sometimes its hot sometimes its not but best believe it will never die. I am a member of a car audio forum because I am still an audio enthousiast. I am still building vehicles and installing car audio in my own vehicles. I just don't work for car audio company any more. I started in the business in the 80s and some may say that I am glamorizing the past but car audio was a great business at one point with sound quality and installation techniquue being a big focus. Each year it was exciting to see the innovations made at CES. Now with the exception of a few small companies, car audio is all about who can make the cheapest amp with the most power and as long as the amp survives it is a success. Cheap is what sells, that pretty much sums it up and I am glad to be out of that business. Just stating a fact, its a free country. No my friend you are voicing an opinion. Car Audio may not be what "You" think it is but it is still very much alive and very innovative. Some mainstream brands may produce shit products but that don't mean that's what its all about. I mean last time I checked some of the biggest and most popular competitors don't even use the mainstream brands any fool off the street would recognize. Whether or not your believe it this industry is alive and well. With your mind state believe me a lot of us are glad you are out of this industry negativity is what kills and yours was unnecessary. My advise to the guy looking for sponsorship was spot on, "friend" and that is coming from someone who has build around a dozen cars for SEMA and had plenty of sponsorship myself. The rest was my opinion, thats cool, I am glad we are all glad. Alive and well is your "opinion". I dont think they guys that worked at Eclipse think it is alive and well. Or Kenwood that got bought up by JVC, or Orion, PPI and ADS that went bankrupt or MB Quart that went under. How about Hifonics that used to be a good brand. Then there are the companies that laid off 1000s of employees combined. Do they think it is "alive and well". Maybe alive but certainly not well. There is a small group of competitors and hardcore guys in the niche that high end audio has because. That does not mean the "industry" is alive and well. That is my opinion based on many facts, This is a forum where people are allowed to express opinions, or I thought it was. I can appreciate your sarcasm and I can also appreciate a good debate and you did make some points but again your "facts" can be said about just about any industry field. We all know companies come and go some live long and others go belly up but one thing that is for certain is that this industry is far from dead. Just because a company has had its run does not mean the industry is dead, if that were the case then this forum would not exist and be as successful as it is. No one is saying some of these companies haven't taken hits but like with anything in business you win some you lose some. There are some companies that survived the test of time and were able to withstand the lean years while others had to call it quits. Just because PPI filed bankruptcy does not mean they died out especially considering I am running Precision Power gear now, MB Quart is still around and producing products and while Hifonics may not be as "good" anymore some of their equipment is still solid. The economy hasn't been easy for any company in any field. I am not jumping on you for expressing your opinions I simply responded to something I disagreed with. I don't want you to think you are being attacked I just had a rebuttal to your claim. P.S. Welcome to SMD Edited December 13, 2011 by IBleedMusick Quote 2013 Dodge Charger Build Log 1996 Ford Explorer XLT 5.0Build Log 2005 Honda Civic LX Coupe Build Log SMD SUPER SELLER!!!!My Selling Feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXsquintyeyesXx Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I'm pretty sure you were talking about carsponsorships.com??? Anyway you are going to have to invest your own money to get sponsored. There is a pretty popular guy in the car audio world which is a perfect example on how to get sponsored. Run 4 18's that you paid for yourself.....posts 100's of youtube videos then people will come to you and ask you to use their products. The companies know your going to continue to post vids and they want in. Then you can start your own website and product line...... Sponsors want to know without a doubt that you are a good marketing tool for them. You are gonna have to spend your own money to start. My best advice for you is to find a local shop that is up and coming and see if they can give you close to dealer price. slap their logo on your car and buy what you can when you can. In a few years you will have a better chance of being sponsored. On a side note sponsors make you sign a contract with obligations that you have to fulfill. I went looking for a sponsor this year and got one offer but I was required to get 2 $3000 buy-ins and run their tent at 3 shows or I paid msrp for the products. I had no problem running tents but i couldn't guarantee 2 buy-ins within 1 year so I had to pass. yea that was the site that I was talking about. IDK if it is legit or not though either. I didnt give them my card number because I dont wanna pay a $99 agency fee since none of my friends paid for anything. They are sending me emails now about sponsor ships that I have qualified for. Like a few minutes ago i got an email about a $500 decal sponsorship that I was "selected" for. Do you know if it is a legit site or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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