fecupe2001 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ok guys, after the "1500 watts amplifiers challenge" i took out everything from the sexplorer, is time to move on and try a bandpass for hairtricks using small cone area, but anyways, i was kind of boring and i wanted to try something fun, hitting over 140 dbs with a DAILY box , cheap equipment on small power and very small cone area, all of this things on a big ass cabin 1) Step one: Getting a cheap sub, i found a Pioneer Champion TS-W258D4 350 watts DVC 4 ohms for 15$ , it didn´t look that bad actually, price it´s something like 45$ if you get it brand new if i´m not mistaken Specs: Features Maximum input power 1.200 W Nominal input power 350 W Impedance 4Ω Frequency response 20 - 450 Hz Lowest resonance frequency 37,4 Hz Sensitivity (1W/1m) 90 dB Woofer size 25 cm Woofer material Interlaced Basalt / Aaramid Fibre Reinforced IMPP Composite Cone Dual 4Ω voice coils: 2 or 8Ω Yes Voice Coil bobbin type Phenol resin coated glass cloth bobbin Pole Yoke Type Extended and Vented pole yoke Magnets Double-stacked, high power Terminals Push-type Recommended sealed enclosure 18,4 - 35,9 litres Surround 3-Layer Fiber Woven Radial Surround Technical Specs Nom. Dia.(In) 10 Qts 0,48 Qms 11,52 Qes 0,50 Fs [Hz] 37,4 Vas [l] 17,63 Vas [ft3] 0,620 Vd [l] 0,326 Vd [ft3] 0,01151 Sd [m2] 0,03134 Sd [ft2] 0,337 Revc [Ω] DUAL1.5 Levc [mH] (2000Hz) 2.2 (4Ω) 0.63 (1Ω) Xmax [mm] 10,4 Xmax [in] 0,41 Zmax [Ω] 96.01 (4Ω) 19.95 (1Ω) BI [Tm] 14.68( 4Ω) Rms[Ns/m] 2,920 Mms [g] 143,28 Cms [m/N] 0,00013 Mg.Wt.[g] 2100 VC.Diameter [mm] 48 Eff [%] 0,18 S.P.L. [dB] 90,0 R.M.S.Power [W] 350 Sp. Displacement [l] 1,64 Sp. Displacement [ft3] 0,058 Recom. Enclosure [l] 22,6 Recom. Enclosure [ft3] 0,80 2) Step two: Get yourself a cheap ass amplifier, i used my old trusty Almani PA1100.2 amplifier, it cost about 100$ brand new, no complains about this little baby, i´ve abused it with 4 mids for about 2 years now without a single problem, of course, since the sub it´s DVC 4 ohms i wired it at 2 ohms P.S: I forgot to take pictures of the amplifier, don´t think you need them tho, if you don´t trust me then i guess i could take some pics tomorrow if you need me to Specs: Almani PA-1100.2 Description * Soft turn ON/OFF * Nickel Plated RCA Jacks * 2 OHM stable operation * Power and Protection LED indicators * High efficiency, heavy aluminum heat sink * Nickel plated power and speaker terminals * All models are bridgeable and stable at 4 OHM * Class "AB" Technology MOSFET PWM Power Supply * Protection circuites against: Overload, Thermal, Reverse Polarity * RMS Power @ 4ohm: 275W x 2 * RMS Power @ 2ohm: 550W x 2 3) Step three: Get yourself some cheap ass plywood (had some scrap wood on my storage so i didn´t spent anything on this) , screws, glue and wires, total cost: around 32$ 4) Step four: Build your ugly ass box with your cheap materials, box specs: 1.2 cubic feet and 17.5 SQ of port with a 40 hz tuning 5) Step five: Get your ass to my "SPL Gains topic" and use some of the tips i tested over there, if you haven´t visited yet, check it out, use as many things as you can. SPL gains topic Printing vinyl 45´s on the pressure corner: DONE!! (no pics) Roundover on the sub hole : DONE!! (no pics) Sexy ass flare using 3/4" pvc strips outside and insinde of the port: Tape around the sub: And finally, metering your ugly ass box on your SUV: Score is sealed on the dash @ 47 hz, plays very nice from 40 to 50 hz, below or above those points it sounds like shit, lots of clipping on that score since i was too lazy to set the gains properly because i don´t give a fuck about that sub lol, so i just burped rolling up the volume knob of the HU and that was it, also, i bass raced a 139.4 using a song from my boy Decaf wich is constant @ 47 hz, with a couple of tweaks i´m sure i could bass race a 139.9 but i´m just lazy as hell since it was just for fun, hope you guys like it Money spent (without including battery, wires and HU): Around 160$ I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskanzx5 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 for the price, that is a great score. t1500bdcp 2 t2d4 15" 1 t600.4 1 t400.2 1 set p1 tweets singer alt, tons of wiring, smd vm-1, 80prs, back seat delete, still in the works, aiming for a 145-147 with the ability to play 25hz up to 50hz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Mike Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Lol nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fecupe2001 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 for the price, that is a great score. Thanks man, it was a fun 2 hours project, and that´s because i wored very slowly since i was drinking a lot haha, once again, i only spent like 20$ since i had some scrap wood, screws, glue, printing vinyl,the amplifier and some cheap wires, but if someone would want to build this same exact system, i guess it would cost less than 200$ without including the HU and the electrical I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fecupe2001 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Lol nice.. I thank you I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Mike Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 You should grab another sub and make a box run on the same amp, see what cha get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Goddamn I thought I was cheap HAHA! that's awesome, bro But can you do a fiddy with $400? 2007 Pacifica Rebuild. Less quiet. Still not loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fecupe2001 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 You should grab another sub and make a box run on the same amp, see what cha get. Should be fun, don´t think i´m getting another sub tho since i want to build a BP now, BUT, a very good friend of mine has 2 pioneer champion 12´s 400 watts a piece, he wants to build a new box, so i´m gonna build it next week before the bandpass and try it out in the explorer, should be fun, a pair of 60$ dollar subs and around 1000 watts, we´ll see Goddamn I thought I was cheap HAHA! that's awesome, bro But can you do a fiddy with $400? hahaha well just have to remember something, it plays very nice but on a small bandwith, below 40 hz it sucks, above 50 hz starts playing like shit also lol, you can´t say it´s a very flat respond box but who cares??? it was fun anyway : What´s fiddy?? I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 You should grab another sub and make a box run on the same amp, see what cha get. Should be fun, don´t think i´m getting another sub tho since i want to build a BP now, BUT, a very good friend of mine has 2 pioneer champion 12´s 400 watts a piece, he wants to build a new box, so i´m gonna build it next week before the bandpass and try it out in the explorer, should be fun, a pair of 60$ dollar subs and around 1000 watts, we´ll see Goddamn I thought I was cheap HAHA! that's awesome, bro But can you do a fiddy with $400? hahaha well just have to remember something, it plays very nice but on a small bandwith, below 40 hz it sucks, above 50 hz starts playing like shit also lol, you can´t say it´s a very flat respond box but who cares??? it was fun anyway : What´s fiddy?? My bad, let me translate: Good sir, would you propose a sound pressure level of one hundred and fifty decibels would be possible, pray tell, from a combination of equipment acquired for the fair sum of four hundred dollars? 2007 Pacifica Rebuild. Less quiet. Still not loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Mike Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 That actually sounded rather educational Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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