HatersGonnaHate Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Use the biggest gauge wire that will fit in the sub terminals. But yea, I'm with everyone else, wires were too small, and the current going through them heated it up. Quote My name is AdamThis is my Civic Build.7" Samsung Tab 2Kenwood KDC-X896Clarion EQS746Sundown X-15DC 3.5k @2ohmHatersGonnaHate's 02 Civic UBLELD Bypass for Honda Civic/Accord/FitDon's Jeep Grand Cherokee Rebuild N8ball2013 - i think you'd stick your dick in a blender if it told you it was 40 wtih two kids your age. lol srp365 - If posting were picking up bitches, I'd be going home single tonight looks like tony montana sneezed in your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploader1 Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 well The wire did fall off so maybe in the process it got to the tip of the clip and heated up that plus it's small wire Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/bosko612?feature=mhee check out and subscribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirill007 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) I use 12g on my front speakers and 10g on my sub. If you're running 2000w at 14v you're able to run a max of 140A through your speaker wire. For that you need like 4AWG wire, but you're not running full-tilt all the time. O really? Show me how you calculated the 140amps. Spoiler: Jaloosk don't read this before answering. This is how you actually calculate it. 2000W at 1 ohm= 44.72V x 44.72 A But that's 44.72V RMS, the rail voltage will be 63.24V and the amperage will be 31,62A.(but this calculation has nothing to do with the power going thru the speaker wire.) So the most amperage the 14g wire will see on a 0db test tone at 1 ohm without any "rise" is 44A. ANd if he plays music which is dynamic it will be closer to 20A and because the ohmage of the sub changes with each frequency, the wire will barely see a constant 10-15A. EDIT: 14guage wire has a capacity of 15-25amps depending on circumstances. So the wire itself isn't the problem, it was probably not connected good enough. Edited March 20, 2012 by kirill007 Quote Thinking is the root of all problems... You ALWAYS get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploader1 Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 HOLY SHIT hahaha damn you know your stuff Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/bosko612?feature=mhee check out and subscribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetkilr01 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I use 12g on my front speakers and 10g on my sub. If you're running 2000w at 14v you're able to run a max of 140A through your speaker wire. For that you need like 4AWG wire, but you're not running full-tilt all the time. O really? Show me how you calculated the 140amps. Spoiler: Jaloosk don't read this before answering. This is how you actually calculate it. 2000W at 1 ohm= 44.72V x 44.72 A But that's 44.72V RMS, the rail voltage will be 63.24V and the amperage will be 31,62A.(but this calculation has nothing to do with the power going thru the speaker wire.) So the most amperage the 14g wire will see on a 0db test tone at 1 ohm without any "rise" is 44A. ANd if he plays music which is dynamic it will be closer to 20A and because the ohmage of the sub changes with each frequency, the wire will barely see a constant 10-15A. EDIT: 14guage wire has a capacity of 15-25amps depending on circumstances. So the wire itself isn't the problem, it was probably not connected good enough. You just blew my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaloosk Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) ^ Me too I use 12g on my front speakers and 10g on my sub. If you're running 2000w at 14v you're able to run a max of 140A through your speaker wire. For that you need like 4AWG wire, but you're not running full-tilt all the time. O really? Show me how you calculated the 140amps. Spoiler: Jaloosk don't read this before answering. This is how you actually calculate it. 2000W at 1 ohm= 44.72V x 44.72 A But that's 44.72V RMS, the rail voltage will be 63.24V and the amperage will be 31,62A.(but this calculation has nothing to do with the power going thru the speaker wire.) So the most amperage the 14g wire will see on a 0db test tone at 1 ohm without any "rise" is 44A. ANd if he plays music which is dynamic it will be closer to 20A and because the ohmage of the sub changes with each frequency, the wire will barely see a constant 10-15A. EDIT: 14guage wire has a capacity of 15-25amps depending on circumstances. So the wire itself isn't the problem, it was probably not connected good enough. 2000w/14.4v = 138.8A I know it's not exact, but I always thought it was a good guideline. FWIW, according to the american wire gauge table 14AWG cable can only safely support up to 32A...what source do you use for gauge capacity? I'm using this: http://www.powerstre...m/Wire_Size.htm If there's something better for car audio applications, I'd be interested in it! Edited March 21, 2012 by Jaloosk Quote "Cheap, good or fast. You can only pick two out of three." "Have money? Love story! No money? I'm sorry." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrchevy87 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Ur talking about power wire. The wire in question is speaker wire Quote Jeep Wrangler TJ Hardtop Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaloosk Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) What's the difference? A 14AWG cable is a 14AWG cable. "Speaker" cables carry power just like "power" cables. It's electricity that's driving the speaker, after all. Edited March 21, 2012 by Jaloosk Quote "Cheap, good or fast. You can only pick two out of three." "Have money? Love story! No money? I'm sorry." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrchevy87 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) The difference is 138 amps to 40 something amps at most. There's no way a 2000 Watt amp is ever gonna push 138 amps through the speaker wire. And according to what u said his wire was sufficient for that amp load when it obviously wasn't. _ Edited March 21, 2012 by jrchevy87 Quote Jeep Wrangler TJ Hardtop Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Amps boost your battery voltage so you don't divide the 2000w by 14v... You need to know the level of the internal voltage rails. Quote This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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