Jmw703 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 I have an AA arsenal 12 running at 800 rms sealed and would like to switch to a ported box. I find that the single/ double bass pedal on hard driving rock/metal music is lacking punch and volume while other music such as dubstep sounds pretty good although more volume is always a plus. So I have decided to switch to a ported box and was wondering what frequency the box should be tuned to. I love the SQ and compact size of sealed boxes but this setup doesn't quite get the job done. I can always swap boxes or remove the sub completely if I need the space. Vehicle is a Mazda 3 sedan, im thinking sub facing rear and aero port to the side. Any thoughts ? 2008 Mazda 3s sport HU: Kenwood DDX318 Mids and Highs: OEM, upgrading soon. Mids and High Amp: adding soon Sub: AA Arsenal 2ft^3 @ 31 hz Sub Amp: BRZ1200.D w/ RF OFC 4 gauge. Big 3: Knukonceptz CCA FLEKS 0/1 Alt: Mechman 220a Source: Ipod classic
skittlesRgood Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 well, if you can spare the space and want a great bandwidth, try a 4th order bandpass and put the port through the rear deck or the center arm rest, if you can. but for a ported box, make sure you have plenty of airspace. you will probably need the port to be partly external if you want an aero. tuning to 32hz always worked well for me. If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people.
Jmw703 Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Posted March 29, 2012 Rear deck is a no go and the armrest does not have a pass through. I'm not really familiar with tuning frequencies but what would the difference be between like 28, 30, and like 32 hz be. (aside from lower extension when lowering frequency) 2008 Mazda 3s sport HU: Kenwood DDX318 Mids and Highs: OEM, upgrading soon. Mids and High Amp: adding soon Sub: AA Arsenal 2ft^3 @ 31 hz Sub Amp: BRZ1200.D w/ RF OFC 4 gauge. Big 3: Knukonceptz CCA FLEKS 0/1 Alt: Mechman 220a Source: Ipod classic
skittlesRgood Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 look at some pics of an enclosure's response curve. you see a sharp drop off under tuning and a gradual roll off above tuning. if you look up pics it'll give you a good visual of whats happening. If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people.
Jmw703 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Posted March 30, 2012 Alright well considering my medium-small vehicle size I have no idea how cabin gain comes into effect. Honestly I don't really understand completely what cabin gain is. I really don't want a one note wonder. I'm going to go with 30 or 32 hz what do you think would probably work best considering what I mentioned above. 2008 Mazda 3s sport HU: Kenwood DDX318 Mids and Highs: OEM, upgrading soon. Mids and High Amp: adding soon Sub: AA Arsenal 2ft^3 @ 31 hz Sub Amp: BRZ1200.D w/ RF OFC 4 gauge. Big 3: Knukonceptz CCA FLEKS 0/1 Alt: Mechman 220a Source: Ipod classic
SnowDrifter Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 Out of those choices, I'd say 32 For the listening style you describe - you could even go up to 35 or 38. Assuming you don't listen to a bunch of low note rap ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444
Jmw703 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Posted March 30, 2012 Yeah don't really listen to much rap anymore, however I do listen to alot of bass heavy dubstep. I would tune higher I just don't want to compromise SQ and to end up with a peaky setup. That being said , bass heavy Dubstep and chest pounding bass pedals for rock type music . Don't want to be too peaky and I want to retain a good amount of sq. Assuming that's possible would a higher frequency be better ? 2008 Mazda 3s sport HU: Kenwood DDX318 Mids and Highs: OEM, upgrading soon. Mids and High Amp: adding soon Sub: AA Arsenal 2ft^3 @ 31 hz Sub Amp: BRZ1200.D w/ RF OFC 4 gauge. Big 3: Knukonceptz CCA FLEKS 0/1 Alt: Mechman 220a Source: Ipod classic
Joe X Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 Yeah don't really listen to much rap anymore, however I do listen to alot of bass heavy dubstep. I would tune higher I just don't want to compromise SQ and to end up with a peaky setup. That being said , bass heavy Dubstep and chest pounding bass pedals for rock type music . Don't want to be too peaky and I want to retain a good amount of sq. Assuming that's possible would a higher frequency be better ? What are your maximum dims for a ported box and also interesting would be the dims of the sealed box you have now.
Jmw703 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Posted March 30, 2012 Max dims I'm not really sure, h 14 , d, 17 and l is a little more flexible. Somewhere in the lower to mid 20s. My current sealed is like 14x14x14.5 I think , volume after displacement is like 1.03 or something. I also have 16 oz of poly fill in there 2008 Mazda 3s sport HU: Kenwood DDX318 Mids and Highs: OEM, upgrading soon. Mids and High Amp: adding soon Sub: AA Arsenal 2ft^3 @ 31 hz Sub Amp: BRZ1200.D w/ RF OFC 4 gauge. Big 3: Knukonceptz CCA FLEKS 0/1 Alt: Mechman 220a Source: Ipod classic
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