Forum or is it an Encyclopedia

[eyezonz]

Questions are fine to a point but let me give you some food for thought.

You go and ask a question that has been asked 40 times and can be answered with 10 seconds worth of searching. Now why should someone that has spent 20 years in the industry just hand that info over at the drop of a question when they spent a lot of their of their own time and probably money to learn how to do what it takes to answer that question? The ones on forums that have a wealth of knowledge and can be a great tool of knowledge dont usually just hand over info on a whim and its because of how much effort they had to put in them selves to learn what they know.

The newbies that want everything handed to them need to learn to figure shit out on their own to instead of having everything handed to them like they have all become so accustomed to in this day and age. The info wasnt just handed to us so why should it just be handed over to the newest generation of lazy people?

kandi said it best.

So i'll quote your last thread and address your complaint since I was the one who closed it.

" Need help select subs to use in my new setup. Which should I go with 4 15" L7s sealed at 2 cu. ft eah or 2 super subs sealed at 4 cu ft each (FI BTL, DD9515, SMD15, etc). Amp Sundown 3500d. "

Your question was weak in content to the point where your thread would only get clouded with brand nuthuggers stating their no real experience ideas of what you should run. How do I know this? Only seen it more times then I care to count. Did you know this when posting? Maybe not. But if you have been lurking for as long as you say you have, then you have seen your fair share of bullshit threads like this.

You are looking to see what you should go with with the widest range of gear you could possibly choose. Really? so you are going to compare the L7 to the SMD? Really. Right. Not only was your post an unrealistic this vs that, but then you didn't even take the time to understand what type of box you should run with said brands.

So why should I take my time to not only choose a sub ( that in my guess you wouldn't get anyway) AND THEN take the time to explain what kind of box those said subs should really be in? Hell you didn't even give us a size sub to work with. How about your car their going in? Come on bro, at least TRY to educate yourself in the products you want to know about. And then give us some real info to work from Nothing wrong with asking for design help if you had actually came on here and had some REAL info to back up your design concerns. If you want real help, Ask some real questions. Help us help you. More then a few of us have spent countless hours helping members on here over the years.

Bill

Ive done countless hours of research and educated my self. Yes I do feel l7s and be compared to SMD15s when put in a sealed box ( who cares that that they arent reccommend for sealed boxes) you guys do things daily that arent RECOMMENDED daily (thats another story) and 4 l7s are the same prices of 2 SMD 15s. I wouldnt have listed them if I wasnt considering getting them. But anyways thanks for all the useful info and thanks for closing my thread before people had the time to yell at me.

i never said anyone did anything wrong, so dont confuse me expressing my thoughts as a rant

THIS THREAD CAN BE LOCKED ALSO

[kingsuv]

Questions are fine to a point but let me give you some food for thought.

You go and ask a question that has been asked 40 times and can be answered with 10 seconds worth of searching. Now why should someone that has spent 20 years in the industry just hand that info over at the drop of a question when they spent a lot of their of their own time and probably money to learn how to do what it takes to answer that question? The ones on forums that have a wealth of knowledge and can be a great tool of knowledge dont usually just hand over info on a whim and its because of how much effort they had to put in them selves to learn what they know.

The newbies that want everything handed to them need to learn to figure shit out on their own to instead of having everything handed to them like they have all become so accustomed to in this day and age. The info wasnt just handed to us so why should it just be handed over to the newest generation of lazy people?

kandi said it best.

So i'll quote your last thread and address your complaint since I was the one who closed it.

" Need help select subs to use in my new setup. Which should I go with 4 15" L7s sealed at 2 cu. ft eah or 2 super subs sealed at 4 cu ft each (FI BTL, DD9515, SMD15, etc). Amp Sundown 3500d. "

Your question was weak in content to the point where your thread would only get clouded with brand nuthuggers stating their no real experience ideas of what you should run. How do I know this? Only seen it more times then I care to count. Did you know this when posting? Maybe not. But if you have been lurking for as long as you say you have, then you have seen your fair share of bullshit threads like this.

You are looking to see what you should go with with the widest range of gear you could possibly choose. Really? so you are going to compare the L7 to the SMD? Really. Right. Not only was your post an unrealistic this vs that, but then you didn't even take the time to understand what type of box you should run with said brands.

So why should I take my time to not only choose a sub ( that in my guess you wouldn't get anyway) AND THEN take the time to explain what kind of box those said subs should really be in? Hell you didn't even give us a size sub to work with. How about your car their going in? Come on bro, at least TRY to educate yourself in the products you want to know about. And then give us some real info to work from Nothing wrong with asking for design help if you had actually came on here and had some REAL info to back up your design concerns. If you want real help, Ask some real questions. Help us help you. More then a few of us have spent countless hours helping members on here over the years.

Bill

Ive done countless hours of research and educated my self. Yes I do feel l7s and be compared to SMD15s when put in a sealed box ( who cares that that they arent reccommend for sealed boxes) you guys do things daily that arent RECOMMENDED daily (thats another story) and 4 l7s are the same prices of 2 SMD 15s. I wouldnt have listed them if I wasnt considering getting them. But anyways thanks for all the useful info and thanks for closing my thread before people had the time to yell at me.

i never said anyone did anything wrong, so dont confuse me expressing my thoughts as a rant

THIS THREAD CANT BE LOCKED ALSO

So are we to decide what you are to spend your money on?

So far that seams to be your only criteria.

Again, it seams you can't understand how to provide info for anyone to answer your questions. Based on the ONE bit of info you provided, you should go with the subs YOU can afford. Your question of what to choose has been answered.

[eyezonz]

Questions are fine to a point but let me give you some food for thought.

You go and ask a question that has been asked 40 times and can be answered with 10 seconds worth of searching. Now why should someone that has spent 20 years in the industry just hand that info over at the drop of a question when they spent a lot of their of their own time and probably money to learn how to do what it takes to answer that question? The ones on forums that have a wealth of knowledge and can be a great tool of knowledge dont usually just hand over info on a whim and its because of how much effort they had to put in them selves to learn what they know.

The newbies that want everything handed to them need to learn to figure shit out on their own to instead of having everything handed to them like they have all become so accustomed to in this day and age. The info wasnt just handed to us so why should it just be handed over to the newest generation of lazy people?

kandi said it best.

So i'll quote your last thread and address your complaint since I was the one who closed it.

" Need help select subs to use in my new setup. Which should I go with 4 15" L7s sealed at 2 cu. ft eah or 2 super subs sealed at 4 cu ft each (FI BTL, DD9515, SMD15, etc). Amp Sundown 3500d. "

Your question was weak in content to the point where your thread would only get clouded with brand nuthuggers stating their no real experience ideas of what you should run. How do I know this? Only seen it more times then I care to count. Did you know this when posting? Maybe not. But if you have been lurking for as long as you say you have, then you have seen your fair share of bullshit threads like this.

You are looking to see what you should go with with the widest range of gear you could possibly choose. Really? so you are going to compare the L7 to the SMD? Really. Right. Not only was your post an unrealistic this vs that, but then you didn't even take the time to understand what type of box you should run with said brands.

So why should I take my time to not only choose a sub ( that in my guess you wouldn't get anyway) AND THEN take the time to explain what kind of box those said subs should really be in? Hell you didn't even give us a size sub to work with. How about your car their going in? Come on bro, at least TRY to educate yourself in the products you want to know about. And then give us some real info to work from Nothing wrong with asking for design help if you had actually came on here and had some REAL info to back up your design concerns. If you want real help, Ask some real questions. Help us help you. More then a few of us have spent countless hours helping members on here over the years.

Bill

Ive done countless hours of research and educated my self. Yes I do feel l7s and be compared to SMD15s when put in a sealed box ( who cares that that they arent reccommend for sealed boxes) you guys do things daily that arent RECOMMENDED daily (thats another story) and 4 l7s are the same prices of 2 SMD 15s. I wouldnt have listed them if I wasnt considering getting them. But anyways thanks for all the useful info and thanks for closing my thread before people had the time to yell at me.

i never said anyone did anything wrong, so dont confuse me expressing my thoughts as a rant

THIS THREAD CANT BE LOCKED ALSO

So are we to decide what you are to spend your money on?

So far that seams to be your only criteria.

Again, it seams you can't understand how to provide info for anyone to answer your questions. Based on the ONE bit of info you provided, you should go with the subs YOU can afford. Your question of what to choose has been answered.

did i do the best to fully express my thoughts in the post, NO, should I have maybe, but I like the idea of a thread when theres mupltiple postings and conversation back and forth. you did nothing wrong it was a dumb post with the way forums are ran today

"YOUR QUESTION OF WHAT TO CHOOSE HAS BEEN ANSWERED", no it has not because becuase it wasnt MY question before. Has it been answered before somewhat...... which brings my point back across the forum should be ran as a forum, and not as a encyclopedia.

LOCK THIS ONE UP

[kingsuv]

Questions are fine to a point but let me give you some food for thought.

You go and ask a question that has been asked 40 times and can be answered with 10 seconds worth of searching. Now why should someone that has spent 20 years in the industry just hand that info over at the drop of a question when they spent a lot of their of their own time and probably money to learn how to do what it takes to answer that question? The ones on forums that have a wealth of knowledge and can be a great tool of knowledge dont usually just hand over info on a whim and its because of how much effort they had to put in them selves to learn what they know.

The newbies that want everything handed to them need to learn to figure shit out on their own to instead of having everything handed to them like they have all become so accustomed to in this day and age. The info wasnt just handed to us so why should it just be handed over to the newest generation of lazy people?

kandi said it best.

So i'll quote your last thread and address your complaint since I was the one who closed it.

" Need help select subs to use in my new setup. Which should I go with 4 15" L7s sealed at 2 cu. ft eah or 2 super subs sealed at 4 cu ft each (FI BTL, DD9515, SMD15, etc). Amp Sundown 3500d. "

Your question was weak in content to the point where your thread would only get clouded with brand nuthuggers stating their no real experience ideas of what you should run. How do I know this? Only seen it more times then I care to count. Did you know this when posting? Maybe not. But if you have been lurking for as long as you say you have, then you have seen your fair share of bullshit threads like this.

You are looking to see what you should go with with the widest range of gear you could possibly choose. Really? so you are going to compare the L7 to the SMD? Really. Right. Not only was your post an unrealistic this vs that, but then you didn't even take the time to understand what type of box you should run with said brands.

So why should I take my time to not only choose a sub ( that in my guess you wouldn't get anyway) AND THEN take the time to explain what kind of box those said subs should really be in? Hell you didn't even give us a size sub to work with. How about your car their going in? Come on bro, at least TRY to educate yourself in the products you want to know about. And then give us some real info to work from Nothing wrong with asking for design help if you had actually came on here and had some REAL info to back up your design concerns. If you want real help, Ask some real questions. Help us help you. More then a few of us have spent countless hours helping members on here over the years.

Bill

Ive done countless hours of research and educated my self. Yes I do feel l7s and be compared to SMD15s when put in a sealed box ( who cares that that they arent reccommend for sealed boxes) you guys do things daily that arent RECOMMENDED daily (thats another story) and 4 l7s are the same prices of 2 SMD 15s. I wouldnt have listed them if I wasnt considering getting them. But anyways thanks for all the useful info and thanks for closing my thread before people had the time to yell at me.

i never said anyone did anything wrong, so dont confuse me expressing my thoughts as a rant

THIS THREAD CANT BE LOCKED ALSO

So are we to decide what you are to spend your money on?

So far that seams to be your only criteria.

Again, it seams you can't understand how to provide info for anyone to answer your questions. Based on the ONE bit of info you provided, you should go with the subs YOU can afford. Your question of what to choose has been answered.

did i do the best to fully express my thoughts in the post, NO, should I have maybe, but I like the idea of a thread when theres mupltiple postings and conversation back and forth. you did nothing wrong it was a dumb post with the way forums are ran today

"YOUR QUESTION OF WHAT TO CHOOSE HAS BEEN ANSWERED", no it has not because becuase it wasnt MY question before. Has it been answered before somewhat...... which brings my point back across the forum should be ran as a forum, and not as a encyclopedia.

LOCK THIS ONE UP

Point I was trying to make, before you caught a serious case of butthurt was....... Put together a comprehensive list of questions that help the rest of us guide you in the best direction for planning your system.

Fuck none of us know what YOU want in a sub. Is it cost? is it looks? is it sound? is it a small vent pole piece so your pecker has a tight fit?

Ask the right questions, get the right answers. it's not hard bro.

[eyezonz]

Questions are fine to a point but let me give you some food for thought.

You go and ask a question that has been asked 40 times and can be answered with 10 seconds worth of searching. Now why should someone that has spent 20 years in the industry just hand that info over at the drop of a question when they spent a lot of their of their own time and probably money to learn how to do what it takes to answer that question? The ones on forums that have a wealth of knowledge and can be a great tool of knowledge dont usually just hand over info on a whim and its because of how much effort they had to put in them selves to learn what they know.

The newbies that want everything handed to them need to learn to figure shit out on their own to instead of having everything handed to them like they have all become so accustomed to in this day and age. The info wasnt just handed to us so why should it just be handed over to the newest generation of lazy people?

kandi said it best.

So i'll quote your last thread and address your complaint since I was the one who closed it.

" Need help select subs to use in my new setup. Which should I go with 4 15" L7s sealed at 2 cu. ft eah or 2 super subs sealed at 4 cu ft each (FI BTL, DD9515, SMD15, etc). Amp Sundown 3500d. "

Your question was weak in content to the point where your thread would only get clouded with brand nuthuggers stating their no real experience ideas of what you should run. How do I know this? Only seen it more times then I care to count. Did you know this when posting? Maybe not. But if you have been lurking for as long as you say you have, then you have seen your fair share of bullshit threads like this.

You are looking to see what you should go with with the widest range of gear you could possibly choose. Really? so you are going to compare the L7 to the SMD? Really. Right. Not only was your post an unrealistic this vs that, but then you didn't even take the time to understand what type of box you should run with said brands.

So why should I take my time to not only choose a sub ( that in my guess you wouldn't get anyway) AND THEN take the time to explain what kind of box those said subs should really be in? Hell you didn't even give us a size sub to work with. How about your car their going in? Come on bro, at least TRY to educate yourself in the products you want to know about. And then give us some real info to work from Nothing wrong with asking for design help if you had actually came on here and had some REAL info to back up your design concerns. If you want real help, Ask some real questions. Help us help you. More then a few of us have spent countless hours helping members on here over the years.

Bill

Ive done countless hours of research and educated my self. Yes I do feel l7s and be compared to SMD15s when put in a sealed box ( who cares that that they arent reccommend for sealed boxes) you guys do things daily that arent RECOMMENDED daily (thats another story) and 4 l7s are the same prices of 2 SMD 15s. I wouldnt have listed them if I wasnt considering getting them. But anyways thanks for all the useful info and thanks for closing my thread before people had the time to yell at me.

i never said anyone did anything wrong, so dont confuse me expressing my thoughts as a rant

THIS THREAD CANT BE LOCKED ALSO

So are we to decide what you are to spend your money on?

So far that seams to be your only criteria.

Again, it seams you can't understand how to provide info for anyone to answer your questions. Based on the ONE bit of info you provided, you should go with the subs YOU can afford. Your question of what to choose has been answered.

did i do the best to fully express my thoughts in the post, NO, should I have maybe, but I like the idea of a thread when theres mupltiple postings and conversation back and forth. you did nothing wrong it was a dumb post with the way forums are ran today

"YOUR QUESTION OF WHAT TO CHOOSE HAS BEEN ANSWERED", no it has not because becuase it wasnt MY question before. Has it been answered before somewhat...... which brings my point back across the forum should be ran as a forum, and not as a encyclopedia.

LOCK THIS ONE UP

Point I was trying to make, before you caught a serious case of butthurt was....... Put together a comprehensive list of questions that help the rest of us guide you in the best direction for planning your system.

Fuck none of us know what YOU want in a sub. Is it cost? is it looks? is it sound? is it a small vent pole piece so your pecker has a tight fit?

Ask the right questions, get the right answers. it's not hard bro.

lol hahhaah now is that really necessary. Modereators shouldnt address people this way. typing up that whole angry ass post took more energy than just locking the thread

LOCK IT

[Emmet]

[pa-pa-platypus]

[kingsuv]

Questions are fine to a point but let me give you some food for thought.

You go and ask a question that has been asked 40 times and can be answered with 10 seconds worth of searching. Now why should someone that has spent 20 years in the industry just hand that info over at the drop of a question when they spent a lot of their of their own time and probably money to learn how to do what it takes to answer that question? The ones on forums that have a wealth of knowledge and can be a great tool of knowledge dont usually just hand over info on a whim and its because of how much effort they had to put in them selves to learn what they know.

The newbies that want everything handed to them need to learn to figure shit out on their own to instead of having everything handed to them like they have all become so accustomed to in this day and age. The info wasnt just handed to us so why should it just be handed over to the newest generation of lazy people?

kandi said it best.

So i'll quote your last thread and address your complaint since I was the one who closed it.

" Need help select subs to use in my new setup. Which should I go with 4 15" L7s sealed at 2 cu. ft eah or 2 super subs sealed at 4 cu ft each (FI BTL, DD9515, SMD15, etc). Amp Sundown 3500d. "

Your question was weak in content to the point where your thread would only get clouded with brand nuthuggers stating their no real experience ideas of what you should run. How do I know this? Only seen it more times then I care to count. Did you know this when posting? Maybe not. But if you have been lurking for as long as you say you have, then you have seen your fair share of bullshit threads like this.

You are looking to see what you should go with with the widest range of gear you could possibly choose. Really? so you are going to compare the L7 to the SMD? Really. Right. Not only was your post an unrealistic this vs that, but then you didn't even take the time to understand what type of box you should run with said brands.

So why should I take my time to not only choose a sub ( that in my guess you wouldn't get anyway) AND THEN take the time to explain what kind of box those said subs should really be in? Hell you didn't even give us a size sub to work with. How about your car their going in? Come on bro, at least TRY to educate yourself in the products you want to know about. And then give us some real info to work from Nothing wrong with asking for design help if you had actually came on here and had some REAL info to back up your design concerns. If you want real help, Ask some real questions. Help us help you. More then a few of us have spent countless hours helping members on here over the years.

Bill

Ive done countless hours of research and educated my self. Yes I do feel l7s and be compared to SMD15s when put in a sealed box ( who cares that that they arent reccommend for sealed boxes) you guys do things daily that arent RECOMMENDED daily (thats another story) and 4 l7s are the same prices of 2 SMD 15s. I wouldnt have listed them if I wasnt considering getting them. But anyways thanks for all the useful info and thanks for closing my thread before people had the time to yell at me.

i never said anyone did anything wrong, so dont confuse me expressing my thoughts as a rant

THIS THREAD CANT BE LOCKED ALSO

So are we to decide what you are to spend your money on?

So far that seams to be your only criteria.

Again, it seams you can't understand how to provide info for anyone to answer your questions. Based on the ONE bit of info you provided, you should go with the subs YOU can afford. Your question of what to choose has been answered.

did i do the best to fully express my thoughts in the post, NO, should I have maybe, but I like the idea of a thread when theres mupltiple postings and conversation back and forth. you did nothing wrong it was a dumb post with the way forums are ran today

"YOUR QUESTION OF WHAT TO CHOOSE HAS BEEN ANSWERED", no it has not because becuase it wasnt MY question before. Has it been answered before somewhat...... which brings my point back across the forum should be ran as a forum, and not as a encyclopedia.

LOCK THIS ONE UP

Point I was trying to make, before you caught a serious case of butthurt was....... Put together a comprehensive list of questions that help the rest of us guide you in the best direction for planning your system.

Fuck none of us know what YOU want in a sub. Is it cost? is it looks? is it sound? is it a small vent pole piece so your pecker has a tight fit?

Ask the right questions, get the right answers. it's not hard bro.

lol hahhaah now is that really necessary. Modereators shouldnt address people this way. typing up that whole angry ass post took more energy than just locking the thread

LOCK IT

Not mad at all, just trying to get a point across about how YOU need to to better prepare yourself to seek info on a site. it's apparent you would argue your "i'm mad so I must be right" stance. Rather then acknowledge that your post was closed due to the lack of useful info for the rest of us to help you out.

So I will close this one as requested by you so your case of butthurt doesn't rage on.

Thanks,

Bill