Executive order for Gun Control!!

[scoobywrx05]

Did anybody watch the video of the cops pulling the "AR " out of the cars trunk at the school shooting?

[Miguels]

From an Australian point of view your constitution here are a few points.

1# When your constitution was written firearms were single shot and relatively weak and there for would have been impossible for one person to kill 20 kids.

2# People do not require AR's or other high powered weapons for self defence a pistol works fine.

3# There are already many very high powered weapons that are not allowed to be owned by civilians they are just talking about adding more to that list not completely taking away your right to bare arms.

4# Your fears of not being able to take over the government is stupid as well, the democracy system makes it impossible for your government to do anything too drastic against the people even obama can be arrested and charged.

5# In every modern country there are laws in place to protect innocent life. Drink driving, speeding, building codes such as fire doors etc. High powered firearm restrictions are no different to those, accident or planned massacre they still pose more danger than good.

I know many americans feel strongly about subjects such as firearms and free speech but the truth is the rest of the world sees america as little more than a joke when it comes to your laws. Laughing and cringing about things we read about your legal system is common place at my work. Medicare for example, Australia has had government healthcare for decades and we simply cannot understand why Americans have such an issue with it when it works perfect in so many countries.

This post is not meant as an attack or a troll of any kind, I am simply taking the opposing side to most people on this forum.

boy,, you know nothing about our constitution or why we have the 2nd amendment so best stay out of it..

the 2nd amendment is there to protect us from our own government.. if our government has full auto weapon than we to have the right to bear full auto weapons.. having the no full auto ban on us is already a violation of our rights. our founders fought for freedom and they wanted the american to have that freedom too giving us the right to bear so that our government wouldnt try and take our freedom..

edit: and because the lack of knowledge you guys have you lost your rights to bear and it cost you guys lots with crime rate climbing over 50%

[Johnp71]

Imagine... just imagine if this whole bullshit against guns started based on a HOAX called Sandy Hook Shooting. This so called massacre actually never happened. These were all actors just like this scum down below. If your kid ever died just few hours ago, now would you be laughing like this! I know I won't be able to stand on my own feet!

[Herokight]

One problem is some of those hippies that wanted to change the world in the 60s and 70s still feel that way, and they're getting into power.

[TheNewbie]

I don't see anything on TV yet.

[Trey_Dog650]

how the ad is so fitting

[Herokight]

From an Australian point of view your constitution here are a few points.

1# When your constitution was written firearms were single shot and relatively weak and there for would have been impossible for one person to kill 20 kids.

2# People do not require AR's or other high powered weapons for self defence a pistol works fine.

3# There are already many very high powered weapons that are not allowed to be owned by civilians they are just talking about adding more to that list not completely taking away your right to bare arms.

4# Your fears of not being able to take over the government is stupid as well, the democracy system makes it impossible for your government to do anything too drastic against the people even obama can be arrested and charged.

5# In every modern country there are laws in place to protect innocent life. Drink driving, speeding, building codes such as fire doors etc. High powered firearm restrictions are no different to those, accident or planned massacre they still pose more danger than good.

I know many americans feel strongly about subjects such as firearms and free speech but the truth is the rest of the world sees america as little more than a joke when it comes to your laws. Laughing and cringing about things we read about your legal system is common place at my work. Medicare for example, Australia has had government healthcare for decades and we simply cannot understand why Americans have such an issue with it when it works perfect in so many countries.

This post is not meant as an attack or a troll of any kind, I am simply taking the opposing side to most people on this forum.

boy,, you know nothing about our constitution or why we have the 2nd amendment so best stay out of it..

the 2nd amendment is there to protect us from our own government.. if our government has full auto weapon than we to have the right to bear full auto weapons.. having the no full auto ban on us is already a violation of our rights. our founders fought for freedom and they wanted the american to have that freedom too giving us the right to bear so that our government wouldnt try and take our freedom..

edit: and because the lack of knowledge you guys have you lost your rights to bear and it cost you guys lots with crime rate climbing over 50%

Damn skippy. Washington said it himself. The American people should have the right to bear arms and raise militia in the case that anyone should attempt to take away their freedom, even their own government.

[Colin - STAPUFT]

Stock up brothers.

SERIOUSLY. The 2nd Ammendment wasn't put in place for sportsmen or for hunting or for muskets- it was put in place so the People could protect themselvs from those that Governed them. Read the Constitution and read The Federalist Papers.

I'm afraid we are all beyond the point of no return. Most people now days think that they get their rights from (and are protected by) the Federal Government. Just a tiny bit of reading and understanding will tell anyone that our rights come from our Creator to us. From us we allow the local and state government to have a tiny bit of OUR power. The states in turn allow the Federal Government a tiny bit of that. We were once "The United States" of America (as in north america). Now... we are just America. So now it is all so damn backwards.

REMEMBER: The government and those in government are not the ones with the power. The People are the ones with the power.

[Sean Raynor]

You all seem to think that your leaders are tyrants that need to be kept in line by giving the population guns. That is pathetic for so many reasons.

Firstly it would be impossible for a "militia" to rise up because out of 320+ million maybe 100,000 are fanatical enough to take up arms and they would just been seen as a terrorist group even by 80% of the population.

Governments are changed by voting booths not guns.

#1 i dont think the guys AR that killed 20 kids was a full auto

#2 could have been done with 2 hand guns if needed to be you can buy extended clips

Again, not invented.

#3 if you keep letting them take shit away eventually you will be left with nothing

There is that slippery slope argument again when has it ever actually happened.. The democratic governments follow what the people want just look at things like SOPA and ACTA, if the people resist hard enough you wont lose any more than you want to.

#4 our government writes new laws ontop of old laws without a problem you can say democracy all you want but thats just another BS story

Laws need to be changed and updated for societies to develop and laws are not just made in a democracy they need to be voted on.

#5 we adopted pretty much canadas health care act they hated it so much that they started comming to america for treatment

#6 so if you dont live here or know what the fuck your talking about keep it to yourself

1# As I stated your constitution was written well before semi auto or full auto guns we available and there for is outdated.

2# Again, not invented.

3# There is that slippery slope argument again when has it ever actually happened.. The democratic governments follow what the people want just look at things like SOPA and ACTA, if the people resist hard enough you wont lose any more than you want to.

4# Laws need to be changed and updated for societies to develop and laws are not just made in a democracy they need to be voted on. Look at the rest of the world, laws get changed here all the time and we are perfectly happy with it. Our economy is stronger, our crime rate is much lower, our suicide rate is much lower, people dont get killed while at our schools anywhere near as much.

5# Can you explain what was wrong with canadas health system i know little of it. our system works like this.

All citizens of Australia are given access to the medicare system for free.

With the medicare system you can claim almost all things medical related back such as tablets, doctors, surgery.

if i go to my pharmacy and buy some medication that costs $50 I can then claim that with medicare and get something like $20 back.

The same goes for seeing specialist doctors however there is a much longer waiting list to see one if you do not have private healthcare.

All doctors must see a certain number of medicare patients a year.

Basically our medicare works exactly like our private healthcare only there are longer waiting lists for things like surgery.

Also our medical procedures are much cheaper than in america, I personally had a full knee construction and only payed $6000 of which i got back $4000 on my top of the line private cover that only costs me $1800 a year.

Our best private health care is under $3000 a year. Whats yours?

6# The fact i do not live there means i am more qualified than you to have an opinion on it. I am a 3rd party that can look at your system objectively and compare it to other systems objectively.

If i could change one thing in america it would be to make voting compulsary for everyone over 18 like it is in the rest of the world. Your system of it being optional means that only people who feel strongly about things actually take the time to do it.

If 60% of your population dont care about what they do with guns and 30% would rather them removed but at the end of the day they don't feel strong enough about it to go stand in line for hours.

Then the 10% of people who are red neck gun fanatics would be standing in like to vote because they feel strong about it and have something to lose, then despite that they are actually the smaller number they will still win.

That is where your democracy system is broken.

Flame me if you want but i am merely speaking my mind as an observer who has been watching the american legal system like a bad sitcom for the last 10 years.

[Sean Raynor]

also wanted to drop a statistic for you to all think about.

In japan 11 people were killed by guns in 1 year. Population 127mil

In america 11,000 people were killed by guns in 1 year. Population 310mil

Is your 2nd Amendment good enough to pay for it with 11,000 innocent lives a year?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state#data