Illegal Immigrant Licenses

[Carbon]

our border is not simply the line inbetween mexico and usa......dont forget about canada.... and our coasts

Your correct but most of the traffic occurs at the southern border. Not to mention most of the drug trafficking as well.

[Airborne]

You guys are killing me here. Most of the drivel on here is direct quotes from Glen Beck and Limbaugh.

1. I would rather have them take a fucking test to drive on public roads. It's stupid to think they won't just drive anyway, at least they will have a basic knowledge of our laws and driving habits.

2. They need a birth certificate to start the process. In Mexico they aren't all born in a hospital, shit ton are born in the family home. Most all will have a baptism certificate but good luck with that one. It if fucking hard for them to apply, especially from Mexico (since all you racist monkeys only concern yourselves with our southern neighbors).

3. 1900 miles of LAND border. What about all the coast line in the Gulf of Illegals, I mean Mexico? The entire west coast? No god damned way it could be buttoned up. It's an ignorant talking point. Period.

4. Where is all the Right Wing fervor about the VAST northern border? 5,525 miles not counting Alaska's 1,538. There are tons of white Cannuks running around in the us on expired Visa's but no one cares because there not Mexican. How about the Chinese? Koreans? Europeans? Africans? Russians?

5. I decided to go into it with out any political talking points or nut job talking points and did some looking. I reasoned with all sides and came to the decision that for the most part it was white southern men in politics and on the radio and Faux News who made everyone so pissed about the situation.

I am not Mexican or some left wing nut. I am a man with my own brain. And all this bitching is a waste of time.

And most of you brake the law everytime you paint your tail lights, cover your liscence plated with smoked plastic, Speed, run stop signs, BLAST YOUR SYSTEM, exceed the load capabilities of your vehicle by 2k+ pounds on rubber band tires. I could go on.

It is not a felony to be in this country without papers so why do we push so much time and money to combat it?

Where are all the protests aginst pedophiles being released from prison? What about people who cheat on their taxes? Why is there no massive movements to stop oil companies from gouging us for no reason? Why don't we all come together and oust the lawmakers who would rather see the country fall to shit than reason through differences?

I'm done...

Its not that anyone is a "racist monkey". Which in itself is a racist slur. The fact still remains that the US and Mexico boarder is crossed ileaglly far more than any other place in the WORLD. Let a lone the US.

lol, ilegal crossing from the south has all but stopped over the last few years yet when people talk about the issue it's ONLY about central and south Americans. Period. Why don't we go after the Canadians eh? Irish, British, Scottish etc?

By your logic they are all committing a grave offense and need to be rounded up and shipped home at all costs.

Until I see the out cry to stop Greeks, Turks, Spaniards, Italians, Dutch, Swiss, Germans, Norwegians, Australians etc from skipping out on a student or tourist visa I will call it racism. I said "monkeys" not as a racist slur but as a way to describe the intellect of all the people who think Mexicans are the only ones that need to be dealt with.

[Miguels]

our border is not simply the line inbetween mexico and usa......dont forget about canada.... and our coasts

Your correct but most of the traffic occurs at the southern border. Not to mention most of the drug trafficking as well.

best way to stop drug trafficking is by not using them.. if no one would use them there would be shipping it elsewhere.. nothing you do will help getting drugs over here as we all know and its stupid to say drugs only come from Mexico. drugs are now being grown and made here. we find marijuana in our mountains and we have methlabs everywhere in the states

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heroin, mushrooms, Ecstasy, speed.. and the list goes on.. its not the 70's 80's anymore where Mexico was used to get drugs in here

[Airborne]

our border is not simply the line inbetween mexico and usa......dont forget about canada.... and our coasts

Your correct but most of the traffic occurs at the southern border. Not to mention most of the drug trafficking as well.

most large shipments of illegal drugs come on ships, private boats, airplanes and in trucks driven by US citizens. Not to mention all the tunnels under the boarder. Heroin comes from the other side of both oceans. A HUGE amount comes across our norther border due to the laxed customs practiced in Canadian ports.

The homie who had to carry 20 keys in a back pack in exchange for a semi safe passage is but a drop in an ocean. Not a reason for us to spend billions tracking him down.

[Airborne]

our border is not simply the line inbetween mexico and usa......dont forget about canada.... and our coasts

Your correct but most of the traffic occurs at the southern border. Not to mention most of the drug trafficking as well.

best way to stop drug trafficking is by not using them.. if no one would use them there would be shipping it elsewhere.. nothing you do will help getting drugs over here as we all know and its stupid to say drugs only come from Mexico. drugs are now being grown and made here. we find marijuana in our mountains and we have methlabs everywhere in the states

NORCAL, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, Montana to name a few places produce hundreds of thousands of pounds of weed...

[OrzechNJ]

You guys are killing me here. Most of the drivel on here is direct quotes from Glen Beck and Limbaugh.

1. I would rather have them take a fucking test to drive on public roads. It's stupid to think they won't just drive anyway, at least they will have a basic knowledge of our laws and driving habits.

2. They need a birth certificate to start the process. In Mexico they aren't all born in a hospital, shit ton are born in the family home. Most all will have a baptism certificate but good luck with that one. It if fucking hard for them to apply, especially from Mexico (since all you racist monkeys only concern yourselves with our southern neighbors).

3. 1900 miles of LAND border. What about all the coast line in the Gulf of Illegals, I mean Mexico? The entire west coast? No god damned way it could be buttoned up. It's an ignorant talking point. Period.

4. Where is all the Right Wing fervor about the VAST northern border? 5,525 miles not counting Alaska's 1,538. There are tons of white Cannuks running around in the us on expired Visa's but no one cares because there not Mexican. How about the Chinese? Koreans? Europeans? Africans? Russians?

5. I decided to go into it with out any political talking points or nut job talking points and did some looking. I reasoned with all sides and came to the decision that for the most part it was white southern men in politics and on the radio and Faux News who made everyone so pissed about the situation.

I am not Mexican or some left wing nut. I am a man with my own brain. And all this bitching is a waste of time.

And most of you brake the law everytime you paint your tail lights, cover your liscence plated with smoked plastic, Speed, run stop signs, BLAST YOUR SYSTEM, exceed the load capabilities of your vehicle by 2k+ pounds on rubber band tires. I could go on.

It is not a felony to be in this country without papers so why do we push so much time and money to combat it?

Where are all the protests aginst pedophiles being released from prison? What about people who cheat on their taxes? Why is there no massive movements to stop oil companies from gouging us for no reason? Why don't we all come together and oust the lawmakers who would rather see the country fall to shit than reason through differences?

I'm done...

Its not that anyone is a "racist monkey". Which in itself is a racist slur. The fact still remains that the US and Mexico boarder is crossed ileaglly far more than any other place in the WORLD. Let a lone the US.

lol, ilegal crossing from the south has all but stopped over the last few years yet when people talk about the issue it's ONLY about central and south Americans. Period. Why don't we go after the Canadians eh? Irish, British, Scottish etc?

By your logic they are all committing a grave offense and need to be rounded up and shipped home at all costs.

Until I see the out cry to stop Greeks, Turks, Spaniards, Italians, Dutch, Swiss, Germans, Norwegians, Australians etc from skipping out on a student or tourist visa I will call it racism. I said "monkeys" not as a racist slur but as a way to describe the intellect of all the people who think Mexicans are the only ones that need to be dealt with.

you are wrong here... People from Europa / Asia go to Mexico / Canada to pass the border illegally without any papers that they even get here..

not like studying and tourists visas..

[Miguels]

the Mexican cartels are becoming has been in the drug industry.. all they are now are idiots running around with assault riffles since they have no one to stop them, no one can own guns there so citizens are screwed. what they are doing now is kidnapping and extortionate everyone

[Noel989]

I don't know Alot about history or geology/land I'm sure I'll get corrected if I'm wrong

But

America is not a country

America is a continent

It's the united states of america USA U.S.

English is not the official language of the US

it is the dominant language though

I'm Mexican born in the us from illegal parents so don't think I'm racist

Should they get help from the Governmen (food stamps,mesical insurance, etc)t no unless it's a life or dead situation

I was denied the help from the government when I needed it and it was a life or death situation

Should they learn English yes my mom even says yes and she was here illegal here for a while and barely understands it

Should they get dl yes why their already here they drive every single day

Would it help with better traffic control nope their more cautious about getting into accidents cause they don't want to get deported

There are a few that just don't care and those should be deported

[Airborne]

from the CIA Fact Book...

The CIA World Factbook lists the land boundaries of the United States as
12,248 kilometers (7612 miles), and the coastline as 19,924 km (12,383
miles). These numbers include all US territory. The Factbook doesn't
break these numbers down except to say that 2,477 km (1539 miles) of the
land boundary consists of Alaska's border with Canada, and that 29 km
(18 miles) consists of the border between Cuba and the US Naval Base at
Guantanamo Bay. The rest of the land boundary is presumably part of the
perimeter of the contiguous 48 states.

From: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html

The Learning Network has a breakdown of coastline length by state.
According to their web page, Hawaii has 750 miles of coastline (which
should be the sum of the perimeter of each of its islands). Alaska has
5,580 miles of coastline. That would make the total perimeter of Alaska
7,119 miles (5580 miles of coast + 1539 miles of land boundary).
Subtracting Alaska and Hawaii, the contiguous 48 states have 6053 miles
of coastline and 6055 miles of land boundaries, for a perimeter of 12108
miles.

I came up with this quick break down of just some of what it would take to lock us down...

So hell yeah, let's button this bitch up! We should build a 12108 mile long 40 foot high fence and put 20 towers per mile manned by at least two people to make sure no one gets in without a hall pass!!! 242,160 towers manned by at least two shifts of 726,480 people! That makes 1,452,960 people alternating shifts! Of course you will need a reserve of at least half that number in case people quit, get fired, die, get arrested etc. So add 363,240. So a grand total of at least 1,816,200 people just to man the towers! Hell yeah! With at least $30,000.00 each per year just for the tower guards you are looking at $54,486,000,000.00 anually! I am not sure what the going rate is for fence building, but it would need to have a 2 foot by 2 foot footing at least of reinforced concrete. Not to mention all the brick, re-bar, water, mortar, wood for the concrete forms, nails, food, water, trucks for that much concrete, fuel, electrical wiring for the towers, surveillance systems, A/C, heat, plumbing for the needed bathrooms, septic tanks, medical support (aid stations, MEDIVAC helo's, medics), guns, ammo, windows for the towers (bullet proof) maintenance on the whole fucking thing.

I was going to do some more breaking down of the people and resources ( I learned this working for my dad's construction company in NM and my 5 combat deployments) but if people don't understand how absurd this is then they can just keep hating Mexicans

[Airborne]

You guys are killing me here. Most of the drivel on here is direct quotes from Glen Beck and Limbaugh.

1. I would rather have them take a fucking test to drive on public roads. It's stupid to think they won't just drive anyway, at least they will have a basic knowledge of our laws and driving habits.

2. They need a birth certificate to start the process. In Mexico they aren't all born in a hospital, shit ton are born in the family home. Most all will have a baptism certificate but good luck with that one. It if fucking hard for them to apply, especially from Mexico (since all you racist monkeys only concern yourselves with our southern neighbors).

3. 1900 miles of LAND border. What about all the coast line in the Gulf of Illegals, I mean Mexico? The entire west coast? No god damned way it could be buttoned up. It's an ignorant talking point. Period.

4. Where is all the Right Wing fervor about the VAST northern border? 5,525 miles not counting Alaska's 1,538. There are tons of white Cannuks running around in the us on expired Visa's but no one cares because there not Mexican. How about the Chinese? Koreans? Europeans? Africans? Russians?

5. I decided to go into it with out any political talking points or nut job talking points and did some looking. I reasoned with all sides and came to the decision that for the most part it was white southern men in politics and on the radio and Faux News who made everyone so pissed about the situation.

I am not Mexican or some left wing nut. I am a man with my own brain. And all this bitching is a waste of time.

And most of you brake the law everytime you paint your tail lights, cover your liscence plated with smoked plastic, Speed, run stop signs, BLAST YOUR SYSTEM, exceed the load capabilities of your vehicle by 2k+ pounds on rubber band tires. I could go on.

It is not a felony to be in this country without papers so why do we push so much time and money to combat it?

Where are all the protests aginst pedophiles being released from prison? What about people who cheat on their taxes? Why is there no massive movements to stop oil companies from gouging us for no reason? Why don't we all come together and oust the lawmakers who would rather see the country fall to shit than reason through differences?

I'm done...

Its not that anyone is a "racist monkey". Which in itself is a racist slur. The fact still remains that the US and Mexico boarder is crossed ileaglly far more than any other place in the WORLD. Let a lone the US.

lol, ilegal crossing from the south has all but stopped over the last few years yet when people talk about the issue it's ONLY about central and south Americans. Period. Why don't we go after the Canadians eh? Irish, British, Scottish etc?

By your logic they are all committing a grave offense and need to be rounded up and shipped home at all costs.

Until I see the out cry to stop Greeks, Turks, Spaniards, Italians, Dutch, Swiss, Germans, Norwegians, Australians etc from skipping out on a student or tourist visa I will call it racism. I said "monkeys" not as a racist slur but as a way to describe the intellect of all the people who think Mexicans are the only ones that need to be dealt with.

you are wrong here... People from Europa / Asia go to Mexico / Canada to pass the border illegally without any papers that they even get here..

not like studying and tourists visas..

prove that hoss.