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You really need to be aware of turn on speed and pulley ratios. If you really want to be slick, see if you can sweet talk a local automotive shop into using their scanner to measure your hot idle speed(don't forget to tip whoever helps you). Then on your own, measure the diameter of your crank pulley. Call up the alt company of choice, report these numbers to them, and they should be able to give you a true idle output estimate specific to your car

I found this which may be helpful..

Yes, you can increase your alternators overall output as well as increase power output at engine idle speeds.

Check the size of the pulley on your alternator. If you are having problems with overall alternator output or charging at engine idle, maybe a smaller pulley is all you need. The most common pulleys on GM, Ford and Daimlier/Chrysler vehicles are the 6-groove 2-7/16, 2-3/8 and 2-1/4 inch pulleys, by reducing the pulley size to 2" or 1-7/8" your alternator will start producing power sooner and produce more power cruising down the boulevard or on the highway. Also, because your alternator is spinning faster the fan will move more cooling air through the alternator adding to component life, to little air flow can burn up an alternator.

Alternator pulley belt wrap, what does that mean? Belt wrap is the contact area the belt has with the pulley. If the belt were to wrap completely around the pulley that would be 100% belt wrap. having 100% belt wrap completely around the alternator would be impossible but the greater the belt wrap the longer belt and pulley life can be expected. Alternators take quite a bit of power to run so good belt contact with the pulley is very important. If you have poor belt wrap or your pulley becomes "glazed" a glazed pulley looks very smooth it may be time to replace the pulley.

Quality alternator pulleys are very important. Many OE manufactured pulleys are made from stamped sheet metal steel. These pulleys have a tendency to heat up and warp which will cause premature belt wear, pulley "glazing" and belt failure. The better pulleys are ones that are made from billet steel, these are machined from solid chunks of steel and have a much greater mass which means they will not warp and they cool much better..

Caution must be noted: Changing the pulley size on your a lternator may void the manufacturers warranty. Spinning your Alternator faster will increase brush and bearing wear. Using a smaller pulley on a high revving engines can cause component failure from extreme speeds. Alternators are only good for about 15,000 continuous RPM's, the lower the alternator RPM's the longer your alternator will last. how to calculate your alternators RPM's you measure your crank shaft pulley size and then your alternator pulley size. Divide your alternator pulley size into your crank pulley size to get the ratio. Example: If you have a 6" crank pulley and a 2" alternator pulley. 6/2=3. You have a 3 to one ratio, you multiply your engine RPM by 3 so if your engine is turning 1500 RPM's your alternator is turning 4500 RPM's. Note: you do not count the diameter of the other pulleys on you engine, just your crank pulley and alternator pulley

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Agree with some things, disagree with others.

Smaller pulleys and more belt wrap will increase belt wear due to the... Can't think of the word... How sharply it bends. Not really an issue though since belts will still go for a long time. But basically it will crack sooner.

More output at idle, yes. But don't expect more output across the board. You may get a couple more amps on the top end just because the thing is spinning so fast but your biggest gain will be at idle.

See the alternator output graph below and how it tapers off

perf%20curve_400.jpg

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Agree with some things, disagree with others.

Smaller pulleys and more belt wrap will increase belt wear due to the... Can't think of the word... How sharply it bends. Not really an issue though since belts will still go for a long time. But basically it will crack sooner.

More output at idle, yes. But don't expect more output across the board. You may get a couple more amps on the top end just because the thing is spinning so fast but your biggest gain will be at idle.

See the alternator output graph below and how it tapers off

perf%20curve_400.jpg

The picture would not load. My main concern is holding good voltage between idle and 1200 rpms. Can you find another picture? Tapers off once you reach so many rpms?

"Toyota Camry rebuild page 21 (link)http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183768-94-crossfire-camry-18s-walled-singer-alt-has-arrived-rebuild-starts-pg-10/page-21

PIONEER DEH-P8400BH

2 CROSSFIRE C5 1700D

2 CROSSFIRE C7 18

HOOD. NSB GROUP48 TRUNK SMS AGM400

DUAL RUNS X SCORP 1/0 OFC

275A SINGER ALT.

DYNAMAT XTREME

SOUNDSTREAM TA4.280

PIONEER COMPONENTS


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Singer always gets back to me withen 2 days. He's a busy man.

Emailed him about 2 weeks ago, still no response.

"Toyota Camry rebuild page 21 (link)http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183768-94-crossfire-camry-18s-walled-singer-alt-has-arrived-rebuild-starts-pg-10/page-21

PIONEER DEH-P8400BH

2 CROSSFIRE C5 1700D

2 CROSSFIRE C7 18

HOOD. NSB GROUP48 TRUNK SMS AGM400

DUAL RUNS X SCORP 1/0 OFC

275A SINGER ALT.

DYNAMAT XTREME

SOUNDSTREAM TA4.280

PIONEER COMPONENTS


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Basically what you are saying once you reach so many rpms the alternator doesn't put out much more current? that's ok as long as its working hard between idle and 1200 rpms im happy.

"Toyota Camry rebuild page 21 (link)http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183768-94-crossfire-camry-18s-walled-singer-alt-has-arrived-rebuild-starts-pg-10/page-21

PIONEER DEH-P8400BH

2 CROSSFIRE C5 1700D

2 CROSSFIRE C7 18

HOOD. NSB GROUP48 TRUNK SMS AGM400

DUAL RUNS X SCORP 1/0 OFC

275A SINGER ALT.

DYNAMAT XTREME

SOUNDSTREAM TA4.280

PIONEER COMPONENTS


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alright well im gonna get a smaller pulley on it in the next few days, we will see how it works out.

"Toyota Camry rebuild page 21 (link)http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183768-94-crossfire-camry-18s-walled-singer-alt-has-arrived-rebuild-starts-pg-10/page-21

PIONEER DEH-P8400BH

2 CROSSFIRE C5 1700D

2 CROSSFIRE C7 18

HOOD. NSB GROUP48 TRUNK SMS AGM400

DUAL RUNS X SCORP 1/0 OFC

275A SINGER ALT.

DYNAMAT XTREME

SOUNDSTREAM TA4.280

PIONEER COMPONENTS


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better alternator > smaller pulley.

I hate how a small pulley is the answer to most peoples alternator thing. In my car it just causes belt slip. It also is like wiring your bass amp lower instead of getting the bigger amp.

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better alternator > smaller pulley.

I hate how a small pulley is the answer to most peoples alternator thing. In my car it just causes belt slip. It also is like wiring your bass amp lower instead of getting the bigger amp.

This is a learning experience for me. I already got money into it so I want to get some use out of it. Once I upgrade the alternator again I will know better ( from this situation I ran into ) I know the belt will not slip and if I burn this alternator up, so be it.

"Toyota Camry rebuild page 21 (link)http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183768-94-crossfire-camry-18s-walled-singer-alt-has-arrived-rebuild-starts-pg-10/page-21

PIONEER DEH-P8400BH

2 CROSSFIRE C5 1700D

2 CROSSFIRE C7 18

HOOD. NSB GROUP48 TRUNK SMS AGM400

DUAL RUNS X SCORP 1/0 OFC

275A SINGER ALT.

DYNAMAT XTREME

SOUNDSTREAM TA4.280

PIONEER COMPONENTS


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