King.Chus Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Maybe competing isn't for you like I said I want to start going to competitions. Just because I don't know something doesnt mean it isnt for me. I have always admired the sound systems i see on youtube and at car shows and seeing them do hair tricks and break windshields. I want to be a part of that. I guess maybe I should ask what's the best one for a NOOB to go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King.Chus Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 alright I'll have to do some measuring when i get home from visiting the family and get back to you guys on the useable space i have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Start in one of the lower classes to get your feet wet. If you go crazy right out of the gate you're likely to get yourself placed in the extreme class and then you're not gonna stand a chance. Find what organization runs the comps by you then look into what classes they have, pick one, and build a system that fits in that classes specifications. If you just want a demo monster and do comps just for fun then by all means go crazy. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Here it is in their manual. NOTE: The woofer must face up or down only, especially in sealed enclosures. http://www.manualslib.com/manual/116367/Orion-Hcca-10-2.html?page=17#manual According to the manual for a box it also says one 5inch round port for a 15 which is 19.6 square inches of port; or a slot port of 4.681 by 4.431 giving you 20.74 square inches of port. Which is only 9.88 square inches of port per cube and the box is 2.10cubic feet after the sub and port displacement. That just seems way way too small for a 15.http://www.manualslib.com/manual/116367/Orion-Hcca-10-2.html?page=23#manual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Here it is in their manual. NOTE: The woofer must face up or down only, especially in sealed enclosures. http://www.manualslib.com/manual/116367/Orion-Hcca-10-2.html?page=17#manual According to the manual for a box it also says one 5inch round port for a 15 which is 19.6 square inches of port; or a slot port of 4.681 by 4.431 giving you 20.74 square inches of port. Which is only 9.88 square inches of port per cube and the box is 2.10cubic feet after the sub and port displacement. That just seems way way too small for a 15. http://www.manualslib.com/manual/116367/Orion-Hcca-10-2.html?page=23#manual That's some fucked up shit right there. Their engineers must be smoking some good shit. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 It looks like their new black cone ones are a little different in the spec department for a box, but I doubt it since it is the same motor well same everything... Maybe they changed the suspension on them, but even still it looks fairly bad imo. I know when I modeled both the new and old hcca 10.2 sub (black cone and silver cone) in termpro, it told me damn near the same box.So i dunno I havent took the time to mess with the 15 inch version but really for its price ($400-500 depending where you buy) there is far better subs out there that will shit all over it.Also heard a lot of issues with the heat sink on top of the pole piece and that they come unglued if the woofer gets too hot. It may also break your dustcap off depending on how the woofer is mounted, and without that heatsink the sub quickly overheats like all hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Nothing against most chinese built subs, but orion is just blah... Same woofer for years and years with no real change except a color change. Kind of like Hifonics new BRZ amp every year and the only difference is more chrome and more leds and the claim of it being new and improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmed Johnson Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 That is fucking funny, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Orion will never be what they were back in the day. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King.Chus Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Looks like Orions are out of the question then. I'm gonna start looking around at different subs then i didn't really look to deep in how well they were doing just watched a couple youtube videos and liked what i saw. I'm glad i posted on here thanks for the help. Start in one of the lower classes to get your feet wet.If you go crazy right out of the gate you're likely to get yourself placed in the extreme class and then you're not gonna stand a chance.Find what organization runs the comps by you then look into what classes they have, pick one, and build a system that fits in that classes specifications.If you just want a demo monster and do comps just for fun then by all means go crazy. I'm wanting to do comps for sure and maybe just show it off at car shows or something from time to time. It's gonna be more for fun than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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