ShadeTreeMechanic Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Using an 8awg wire instead of 1/0 you will quickly find out that you won't be able to keep a fuse in it. The amp is going to try to take what ever it wants and you can't stop it. The only thing you can do is turn the volume down. 91 C350 Centurion conversion ( Four Door One Ton Bronco) 250A Alternator (Second Alternator Coming Soon) G65 AGM Up Front / Two G31 AGM in Back Pioneer 80PRS CT Sounds AT125.2 / CT Sounds 6.5 Strato Pro component Front Stage CT Sounds AT125.2 / Lanzar Pro 8" coax w/compression horn tweeter Rear Fill FSD 5000D 1/2 ohm (SoundQubed 7k Coming Soon) Two HDS315 Four Qubes Each 34hz (Two HDC3.118 and New Box Coming Soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhunt94 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Using an 8awg wire instead of 1/0 you will quickly find out that you won't be able to keep a fuse in it. The amp is going to try to take what ever it wants and you can't stop it. The only thing you can do is turn the volume down. And the bad thing about that is if all of it is running off of the secondary battery, he won't know that the fuse has popped until it drains the battery down below amplifier operating voltage. 2007 Ford F-150 Reg. Cab. Flareside250 Mechman AlternatorSky High Car Audio Big 3 XS Power D3400Rockford Fosgate 1/0 amp kitRockford Fosgate T1500-1bdcpRockford Fosgate T400-4DC Audio Lvl 4 12"Rockford Fosgate Punch 6.5" componentRockford Fosgate Punch 6x8Pioneer AVH-P2300DVDSMD Volt Meter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im_quagmire Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Using an 8awg wire instead of 1/0 you will quickly find out that you won't be able to keep a fuse in it. The amp is going to try to take what ever it wants and you can't stop it. The only thing you can do is turn the volume down. And the bad thing about that is if all of it is running off of the secondary battery, he won't know that the fuse has popped until it drains the battery down below amplifier operating voltage. = FRIED AMP INTERNALS ... I tried to explain the situation to him but seems he doesn't want to listen, or work way harder than smarter lol. Ive given my input, I am moving along now lol. But What Do I Know? 2003 Chevy Monte Carlo SS 3.8 JVC KD-R975BTS Clarion EQS746 Kenwood P907PS Ascendant Audio 12" Havoc v.1 Ampere Audio 2000.1 MB Quart Onyx 800.4 XS Power D3400 - Hood XS Power D975 - Trunk Singer 240A Sky High OFC 0 & 4 gauge Kno Knoise Kolossus Deadener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadeTreeMechanic Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Maybe he has the right idea now. I know I have been out in left field with a new idea before and someone has always pulled be back in. Its hard being a Newby! lol Maybe he will post pictures of his build. 91 C350 Centurion conversion ( Four Door One Ton Bronco) 250A Alternator (Second Alternator Coming Soon) G65 AGM Up Front / Two G31 AGM in Back Pioneer 80PRS CT Sounds AT125.2 / CT Sounds 6.5 Strato Pro component Front Stage CT Sounds AT125.2 / Lanzar Pro 8" coax w/compression horn tweeter Rear Fill FSD 5000D 1/2 ohm (SoundQubed 7k Coming Soon) Two HDS315 Four Qubes Each 34hz (Two HDC3.118 and New Box Coming Soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eamon Conheady Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Using an 8awg wire instead of 1/0 you will quickly find out that you won't be able to keep a fuse in it. The amp is going to try to take what ever it wants and you can't stop it. The only thing you can do is turn the volume down. That's exactly what I thought too. But this is the diagram: http://www.hellroaring.com/Basic%20Aux%20Audio.php This is the instruction guide, but yeah, the wire in conjunction with the isolation device limits the throughput, without burning it off as heat. I don't understand how this works. Think that it is able to do what it says without popping that fuse? 1995 Subaru Impreza Wagon 140A semi-HO alt upgrade Sony GS810-BT Hertz HDP.4 120w RMS x 4 @ 4 Ohms German Maestro 2-way AC6511 - front door Kicker 2-way 6.5" - rear towers Rockford Fosgate T1500-bdCP 2x 12" Alpine Type-R parallel @ 2 Ohms - sealed box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Do you not get what we are telling you? Here let me tell you again, it's a horrible fucking idea. That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadeTreeMechanic Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Well....... if the fuse doesn't pop then that means the amp won't get enough and it will fry when the battery voltage sags. You need more than 60a to do what you are doing. It has to come from somewhere. You would really be better off with a smaller amp. Or run what you have and turn it down a little when the needle on the volt meter starts bouncing or the lights start dimming. A battery with 60a charge isn't going to cut it. That's the point. 91 C350 Centurion conversion ( Four Door One Ton Bronco) 250A Alternator (Second Alternator Coming Soon) G65 AGM Up Front / Two G31 AGM in Back Pioneer 80PRS CT Sounds AT125.2 / CT Sounds 6.5 Strato Pro component Front Stage CT Sounds AT125.2 / Lanzar Pro 8" coax w/compression horn tweeter Rear Fill FSD 5000D 1/2 ohm (SoundQubed 7k Coming Soon) Two HDS315 Four Qubes Each 34hz (Two HDC3.118 and New Box Coming Soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 so, you can run an isolator if you like, but your car isnt a boat. That is what isolators are for, like boats in the middle of a lake with a starting battery and a battery for accesories. You dont want a dead battery in the middle of a 500 acre lake. So, go look through every build log here and any other car audio forum and i bet you wont see any isolators. Te reason for that is they are a horrible idea. But, go ahead and buy an isolator. Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eamon Conheady Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Ok, so no isolator then!I definitely understand that you don't want the voltage to drop as it will cause damage. But, audio can run off the batteries when the car is off, right? I'm imagining it like that, except that I'm "trickle" charging the battery while playing music with the 60A. It won't last forever, but it'd last longer than just a battery being drained quickly. Just monitor the voltage of the batteries and turn it down/off before the voltage levels get too low and cause damage.Like a dam/river. -a steady river (60A from alternator) flows into a lake (the secondary battery) -the hydroelectric dam all of a sudden gets huge demands (the music is bumping) and opens up all the waterways -when there isn't a huge load (music isn't loud), the dam closes (power isn't being supplied to amps) and the lake gets to refill just a bit (battery charges a little) -regardless of how fast the lake is emptied, the river doesn't flow any faster (alt never has a load greater than 60A) -after long enough period, the lake could run dry (dead battery), but by getting a big enough lake (large batteries) and monitoring the lake water levels (battery voltage), I could turn down the demand before it reached the point where damage can occur to any part of the system. 1995 Subaru Impreza Wagon 140A semi-HO alt upgrade Sony GS810-BT Hertz HDP.4 120w RMS x 4 @ 4 Ohms German Maestro 2-way AC6511 - front door Kicker 2-way 6.5" - rear towers Rockford Fosgate T1500-bdCP 2x 12" Alpine Type-R parallel @ 2 Ohms - sealed box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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