LSN2meBoom916 Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 i like the look of the magnet on the outside but if inside is louder than inside it is. what if one was on the outside and one was in the inside? would they fight eachother? No just wire them in opposite phase. So that ones not going in while the other's going out. With subs, phasing usually isnt a huge deal, so just make sure theyre opposite, or else they will fight. In case thats not making sense, switch the positive and negative wires on the inverted sub. [glow=red,2,300]unless of course the box is divided into 2 parts and each sub is using its own airspace...[/glow] In that case you would STILL want to switch one to 180 deg out of phase as stated above. And they^^^ are right about it TOTALLY depending on your box/sub setup. Only way to know what will be better....try it both ways. Listen to it and judge w/ your ear, and get it metered to see if it's louder on the mic if you have access to a mic. Consider what is more imortant to you: Loudness to the ear, loudness on a mic, or "how cool" it looks. Quote COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F N LO Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 ok my bad :poster_oops: i thought if each were using their own space it wouldnt matter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSN2meBoom916 Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 I know it's kinda confusing... Look at it like this: The sub has 2 sides to it right? "Front" (cone/dustcap/logo) side and the "back" side (basket/magnet/+&- terminals)...and EACH side generates a WAVE (of sound)...which ever is facing out of the box will be moving in and out to a certain frequency...lets say its going "in, out, in, out"...so as it's doing that, it is COMPRESSING the air in front of it (inside the vehicle). It's also acting on the air inside the box & compressing it but "out of phase" w/ the WAVE on the other side of the speaker/cone...make sense? When the cones PUSHES OUT it compresses the cabin air, and when it SUCKS BACK IN it compresses the air inside the box. So if you flip ONE sub (inverted/magnet out) and leave one mounted normally, but fail to swap the wiring (+&-) on the inverted sub, the sub doesn't know it's been inverted and it will be PUSHING OUT when it should be sucking in to stay IN PHASE w/ the normal mounted woofer. So instead of having 2 subs pushing out and sucking back in togehter COMPRESSING air TOGETHER, you have them taking turns going in and out and you will have mucho cancellation and less BASS. BOOOOO! More bass! More bass! So just think of orientation of your subs as needing to be "in sync" (haha-not the boy band you queers) and have to going in/out at the same time (and this depends on the +&- getting flipped on any subs or speakers mounted inverted/opposite in relation to other speakers). I kinda already did an answer to this one (try the search engine up in the right hand corner next time...my previous explaination is clearer maybe?) http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/forums/in...hp?topic=2111.0 ...& this one too... http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/forums/in...hp?topic=2256.0 Hope that helps some. Quote COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickerman Posted February 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 thanx your opinion might help! Quote 18" mmats juggernaut rf t10001bd alpine h/u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickerman Posted February 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 (edited) i mounted the magnets upside down and they sound good. it sounds about the same as it would with the magnets on the inside. Edited February 22, 2007 by kickerman Quote 18" mmats juggernaut rf t10001bd alpine h/u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Did you have to switch the wires backwards like + as - with both subs? or did you just wire them like you normally would Edited February 23, 2007 by Chris Quote 4 15" FI Q D2's in 12 cubes tuned to 32hz 1- T1000.1bd's 3 Maxx 29 deep cycles 4 runs of 1/0 gauge -Big 3 -Trunk sealed off from the cabin Custom 15.8 dual-volt switching MLA module All in a CAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyjoker Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Did you have to switch the wires backwards like + as - with both subs? or did you just wire them like you normally would wire them normally Quote 1999 Eclipse N/T 12'' Fi BTL Gp3000d PM D3100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 cool cuz Im about to do an install like that with 2 15"s on my brother-in-law's blazer and had been wondering about that before I put them in. I actually had to mount them upside down cuz the subs are really 15 & 1/2 inches wide and have a larger cutout diameter required, but the enclosure is prefabbed and they didnt fit. Quote 4 15" FI Q D2's in 12 cubes tuned to 32hz 1- T1000.1bd's 3 Maxx 29 deep cycles 4 runs of 1/0 gauge -Big 3 -Trunk sealed off from the cabin Custom 15.8 dual-volt switching MLA module All in a CAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyBoy Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 cool cuz Im about to do an install like that with 2 15"s on my brother-in-law's blazer and had been wondering about that before I put them in. I actually had to mount them upside down cuz the subs are really 15 & 1/2 inches wide and have a larger cutout diameter required, but the enclosure is prefabbed and they didnt fit. so cut it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickerman Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 i wired them out of phase. like ur soposed too. Quote 18" mmats juggernaut rf t10001bd alpine h/u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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