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i didnt look at the vids on their site, i remember Orion putting out some the LAMEST, most biased, fixed, comparison vids i ever saw a few years ago - is that the vids he is reffering too? damn some people its like "fishing in a bucket" (if you fell for that shit) LOL


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please tell me your not serious...they dont compare ANY subs that are similiar...they compare a SPL oriented sub vs a daily driving sub. W7 T1s...are you serious...put it against a DD Z1 or a 95 series...DC level 5, FI BTL and so on...they wont last vs any of those

i cant believe you fell for that shit....and steves got a mad point...look at the vids on HIS site...

i would like orion much better if they DIDNT have thsoe fucking comparisons...they dont compare apples to apples

true....the boxes they used for the other companies were generic as well...those test's were ridiculous, and stopped me from buying Orion way back before I joined this forum.

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Excactly, I would go with the Orion to and I own some of the for mentioned product! Orion has always had great service, better then the formentioned handsdown!

exactly what?

so what you own some Orion, good for you.....im sure you love it......but please do tell of your "bad" personal experience with fi's customer service (as compared to Orion).


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no one just forgets that....either you know or you dont know and you clearly didnt know till you got called out LOL -

the BTL doesnt have crazy low end? thats a retarded statement. They do it just depends on your install, much like ALL subs. I can go to the DEPTHS of hell with the Hoopty.......all BTL's. I can go to the depths of hell with my honda which has RE MT's - a direct swap with BTL's would yield almost exactly the same results but sound better (and be more reliable) doing it. Not because of the name brand, but because of the box and the way its tuned.

You run HCCA because you want to be unique and you dont "run with the crowd"? sorry to tell you, young buck, but Orion has been around a lot longer then Fi and millions more people run orion then Fi - so yes you are for sure "running with the crowd"....

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please tell me your not serious...they dont compare ANY subs that are similiar...they compare a SPL oriented sub vs a daily driving sub. W7 T1s...are you serious...put it against a DD Z1 or a 95 series...DC level 5, FI BTL and so on...they wont last vs any of those

i cant believe you fell for that shit....and steves got a mad point...look at the vids on HIS site...

i would like orion much better if they DIDNT have thsoe fucking comparisons...they dont compare apples to apples

Nicks got a good point...the subs they are comparing too arent even in the same class. I would LOVE to see them throw it up against a BTL 12 or even a DC Lv5. I bet that sub would run home with its tail between its legs.

Ive owned orions, and to me...when it comes to subs Fi>Orion ANYDAY

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exactly what?

so what you own some Orion, good for you.....im sure you love it......but please do tell of your "bad" personal experience with fi's customer service (as compared to Orion).

LOL, wow you get mad easy! No I have owned some of the formentioned as in both, I still have my BTL's but I have had from "Experience" bad dealings with nick! Last I checked and it has been a while they didnt have a number to call for tech support if you did have a problem, you have to join there forum or one that Nick or Scott is on just to wait a month for them to deal with you. <---But that was based on my experience, so I just shared my experience!
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Excactly, I would go with the Orion to and I own some of the for mentioned product! Orion has always had great service, better then the formentioned handsdown!

1) Do you own any orion product ( such as subs, amps, componets )?

2) Have you ever had any failures fronm the equiptment to justify how well their service is?

3) What " for mentioned product" do you actually own?

As somone that has been running Orion since back in 04 when the h2s were released, I can tell you that for 04'-08' the customer service was SHIT!. I have personally owned h2's ( been through over 12 sets actually), 2500ds ( i love these amps and still run them to this day ), componets ( 6.2's) even the newer 4800s ( which replaced my old 800.2 that I had) and I've been through 2 of those amps already. Each time I had an issue with something it was a pain in the ass with customer service to get something replaced. When I kept going through the h2's they were UNABLE to figure out why, on later to find out that they were giving me the WRONG BOX dimensions. You statment of Orion always having great service is FALSE and this is from someone who has ran their product for years. :good:

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LOL, wow you get mad easy! No I have owned some of the formentioned as in both, I still have my BTL's but I have had from "Experience" bad dealings with nick! Last I checked and it has been a while they didnt have a number to call for tech support if you did have a problem, you have to join there forum or one that Nick or Scott is on just to wait a month for them to deal with you. <---But that was based on my experience, so I just shared my experience!

im not mad....

i said "do tell" and you told, so what more can i say :D

if customer service is gettin bad at Fi, i dont know anyting about it.........my BTL's dont have problems, and im 14 months into my latest ones (new style) so i have no reason to call for service. If i did, i would use my "hotline" anyway. :D

so ya, if you had a prob and they "fucked the dog" on helping you, sorry to hear that! I dont work there i just run their products in my personal vehicle.


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