IH8PunkRok Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) When you place a woofer directly on a baffle the air displaced by the cone and outer surround radiates all directions it can, air likes the most direct route so interuptions are bad, if you put a woofer straight onto a baffle the air flows over the basket/bounting ring and onto the baffle. If you recess the woofer into the enclosure or add an additional panel ontop so the outer surround is flush with the baffle you improve air flow from the woofer to the baffle, SPL cars use this to gain a few 10ths of a db. If you look at your current mounting will have air pressure moving down into the void between your woofers, if you filled that void then the pressure can only move upward in unison into the rest of the vehicle cabin. It is not much extra output but every little counts. It is not worth changing now it is all trimmed and only a small gain but something to consider in the future. so you are saying that top (flush mount) baffle would in essence direct the air straight up as opposed to in all directions with no flush mount.i guess that makes sense. except i dont see any subs excurting sideways. its must be a really small amount of air steve that rockford logo on the box looks killer man. it really brings it all together Edited October 6, 2009 by IH8PunkRok Quote -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 When you place a woofer directly on a baffle the air displaced by the cone and outer surround radiates all directions it can, air likes the most direct route so interuptions are bad, if you put a woofer straight onto a baffle the air flows over the basket/bounting ring and onto the baffle. If you recess the woofer into the enclosure or add an additional panel ontop so the outer surround is flush with the baffle you improve air flow from the woofer to the baffle, SPL cars use this to gain a few 10ths of a db. If you look at your current mounting will have air pressure moving down into the void between your woofers, if you filled that void then the pressure can only move upward in unison into the rest of the vehicle cabin. It is not much extra output but every little counts. It is not worth changing now it is all trimmed and only a small gain but something to consider in the future. so make the box PLAIN or just PLAIN UGLIER to gain a 10th of a db and you dont even know for sure if it would gain a tenth? No thanks. I will pass on that. For all you know i gained a 10th doing it this way. Thanks anyway for the advice though Quote All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 steve that rockford logo on the box looks killer man. it really brings it all together Thanks!!!! i like it too Quote All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym85 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) so you are saying that top (flush mount) baffle would in essence direct the air straight up as opposed to in all directions with no flush mount. i guess that makes sense. except i dont see any subs excurting sideways. its must be a really small amount of air steve that rockford logo on the box looks killer man. it really brings it all together what he is talking about is called diffraction...more of an sq thingever see those home audio speakers in the round enclosure from Orb Audio that has a google ad on this site?...same idea a recessed speaker in a round or teardrop shape enclosure will disapear in your front stage if done properly because the waves have no angles to bounce off in a sense...mostly done for highs...of course i know nothing about it.. sorry for the off topic... shits lookin good as always boss... Edited October 6, 2009 by andym85 Quote i likes me some audio stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2G9 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 IT LOOKS GREAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-navi-916 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 the wrapping came out beautiful your work is great man Quote BUILDLOG http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...showtopic=61862 "98crewcab"Never a POS....just always "a work in progress" lol that's how we roll bitches!!! Your a lowlife kid. I bet your mother wants to kill herself for not swallowing your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white4d96 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Great work! Wish I knew how to do stuff like that. How long 'til the doors!? Suspense is KILLIN' US! =P Quote Too many projects, too little time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 what he is talking about is called diffraction...more of an sq thing ever see those home audio speakers in the round enclosure from Orb Audio that has a google ad on this site?...same idea a recessed speaker in a round or teardrop shape enclosure will disapear in your front stage if done properly because the waves have no angles to bounce off in a sense...mostly done for highs...of course i know nothing about it.. sorry for the off topic... shits lookin good as always boss... well i didnt notice any difference other then its still loud and it is still lovely sounding. At 137 debeez, its hard to tell if i lost any thing by doing it like this :D the wrapping came out beautiful your work is great man Ok now you have good taste LOL!! :D Quote All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meade916 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Great work! Wish I knew how to do stuff like that. How long 'til the doors!? Suspense is KILLIN' US! =P just got to work this morning and found a pair of RF 8" woofers that musta got delivered yesterday after i left work....now i just need the rest of it! Then i can start thinking of how i wanna do the panels and i may have to think about it for a week and do some planning. Quote All SMD products + MORE available at my store here! https://wccaraudio.com/ Subscribe to My Youtube Channel! Over 1,000,000 subscribers strong! Turn on your notifications! http://www.youtube.com/meade916 Follow My Instagram! Daily live feeds from the shop, exclusive content way before it hits my Youtube channel...and little squares with photo's in them http://www.instagram.com/meade916 The Official SMD Facebook fan Page https://www.facebook.com/SteveMeadeDesigns/ Follow my Tweet (Twitter) http://www.Twitter.com/meade916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splzx3 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 hey steve is it cool if i use how u did the amps under the box? and im still droolin over the box it is just sexy and i cant w8 2 see wut u come up with for the doors Quote ________________________________________________________________________ deepsilencer, on 22 Aug 2011 - 17:32, said: splzx3, on 22 Aug 2011 - 17:27, said: i had my fun on one of his videos...till he blocked me then i got my mother into it lol after her he closed the comments xD lol your mom is a G! WTF, I never thought I'd have a conversation about cross dressers and trans-genders on a car audio forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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