MrSoundz Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Can someone explain to me the physics behind one monster 12 in a SPL ported enclosure easily outdoing 2 10's? I recently got a good deal on a RF 12 inch T2 RMS 1000 watts. So I had a custom enclosure built for it which is a little over 2 cubic feet tuned to 40 hz. This s**t is banging really really hard. I also have 2 10 inch RF T1s (600 watts RMS each) in a enclosure built to specs. It bangs really really hard but not like the 1 T2. The T2 I would say is about 30% louder and harder where bass is concerned. How can 1 monster 12 outdo 2 excellent 10's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1992Chevy K1500 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 The tuning frequency has a lot to do with how it sounds. Quote My comp setup (Not bad for what it is): HP Compaq Presario V6120US laptop with: 15.4" widescreen AMD Turion 64 X2 1.6GHz processor 2x1GB stick DDR2 SDRAM (667 Mhz) Seagate Momentus 500GB SATA HDD 128MB shared video memory Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit 12 cell Lithium Ion battery (actual battery usage time: 6 hours) What it does: On a USB 2.0 Wireless card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team_DC-Derrick Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 it also depends on what power your throwing at them, you could be giving 1000 rms to the 12 and 500 to each 10.. so your giving full rms on 1 and not full on the others... and yes, your tuning on the boxes has alot to do with it Quote The DC Integra 3 18s to 6 15 build log Team_DC-Derrick's Youtube Team DC Audio where theres a will theres a wall....... I just realized Steve has reach Voldemort status, over on JP's site he is the one who will not be named....."We dont speak his name over here, fearing it will destroy us" LOL not even in hush tones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shainemcconnell Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 ...surface area of the cone....more surface aera to push ait..generelly more pressure level. Quote 2010 IDBL Rookie 1 North American Champion 2009 IDBL Rookie 1 Fl State Champion 2009 EBB Fly Weight 3rd Place Fl State Finals 2006 Silver Grand Prix GXP :Diablo Audio Hellfire 1000.1, JL Audio 300/4, One 13W7, ZR650, VR690, JL Cleansweep setup. Team Pure Pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoundz Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 ...surface area of the cone....more surface aera to push ait..generelly more pressure level. The RF T2 is getting 1200 + watts whereas the 10's were getting a little over 600 watts a piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznboi3644 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Enclosure is the difference "built to factory specs" means nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobonit Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 The enclosure for your 12 could be tuned closer to the resonant freq of your vehicle which would make it more efficient. Quote 97 Maxima SE Bunch of shit going in, check out the build Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 db is a pressure reading. subs make pressure by moving air back and forth. generally two subs have more cone area and can move more air per cycle than a single sub. now when u have a massive spl sub like u said most likely it will have a longer throw than the other subs which will make up for the less cone area. so it can move more air because the sub itself moves more. as for the power, more power moves the cone farther, meaning it moves more air. therefore more power=more pressure. the box is a whole other beast thats more complicated Quote -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Building Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 db is a pressure reading. subs make pressure by moving air back and forth.generally two subs have more cone area and can move more air per cycle than a single sub. now when u have a massive spl sub like u said most likely it will have a longer throw than the other subs which will make up for the less cone area. so it can move more air because the sub itself moves more. as for the power, more power moves the cone farther, meaning it moves more air. therefore more power=more pressure. the box is a whole other beast thats more complicated Good answer. Also, with two subs, you have two separate voice coils to dissipate heat and two separate motors to create kinetic energy. Sometimes, two smaller motors can be more efficient than one monster slug because of thermal management and mechanical factors (i.e. a huge, stiff suspension to damp 1000s of watts). To make things simple, you should look at your vehicle to determine what would be best for IT. That one monster will definitely outperform two lesser subs if you don't have the space for them, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoundz Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Good answer.Also, with two subs, you have two separate voice coils to dissipate heat and two separate motors to create kinetic energy. Sometimes, two smaller motors can be more efficient than one monster slug because of thermal management and mechanical factors (i.e. a huge, stiff suspension to damp 1000s of watts). To make things simple, you should look at your vehicle to determine what would be best for IT. That one monster will definitely outperform two lesser subs if you don't have the space for them, for example. After hearing my 1 12 RF T2 I will never again doubt the power of one high quality subwoofer. My bass is super clear and sounds like King Kong is in the trunk. Literally now if I turn the volume knob up to about 8, it can be too much I will probably never run 2 subs ever again after hearing my T2. The gain knob on my RF T1500-1Bd is a little under 3. The box is exactly at 2.25 cubic feet tuned to 42hz. It's smaller than the box for my 2 RF T1 10's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.