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i know this has probably been asked 1000 times, but ima try and not be a noob about it and at least give all the details of the system.

which setups louder ?

1) 12" AQ HDC3 in 2.5 cubic box ported tuned at 38 Hz, powered by ED nine.1 amp

OR

2) 2 Alpine type R's 12" in a 3.9 cubic ported prefab box (still very nice/large though with 3/4 MDF ect), powered by ED nine.1

Considering i have the electrical to support both setups, and its going into a sedan, which one should hit harder?

i was told the alpines will because of more cone area, but i was also told the AQ makes up for lack of cone area by having a big Xmax.

F/s: 2 custom made boxes, for 1 12" and 2 12" hit me up I'll let em go cheap

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There's no replacement for displacement brah

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For sure Alpines although you could go two sdc2.5 12 and beat the type r by a little with the same amp assuming a 38hz box.

1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31

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how much louder? worth the $$$ spent for the upgrade?

and how much is my AQ worth (copper coil D2 12")

Yes two twelves will be much more louder on the same amp but it should not be much of a cost in upgrade since type r dont go for that much, assuming you will get more than 200 for your aq since its worth about 220 shipped.

1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31

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didnt realize how well they held their value.....

i already have 1 type r from an old setup....so for like $130 + a box from best buy which is like 100 i can pretty much even out here.

F/s: 2 custom made boxes, for 1 12" and 2 12" hit me up I'll let em go cheap

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Do not buy a box from best buy TRUST ME, ive made 3 boxes already for my different subs and all came out 1000 times better than prefabs.

When i first started in car audio, i bought 2 prefabs online from the best sites, and all dissapointed me compared to when i built my very first one for less than $50.

If you need a design ask around and you will get one.

1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31

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yea but i have a $50 coupon so basically a new box is only $50...and its built at what alpine recomends (3.9 cubic, alpine recomneds 2.0 max per sub) AND its ported....its a prefab but not like the typical cheap ones its a good one with 3/4 MDF. (not the typical 1/2" cheapo wood not even ported pussy shit)

i am definetly not building my own box i dont have the tools/skills necessary...

F/s: 2 custom made boxes, for 1 12" and 2 12" hit me up I'll let em go cheap

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Do you know what the box is tuned to?

Personally i would give them about 34-36hz tuning. But depends really on the music you play.

1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt

Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31

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