SPLadd1ct Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Hello, I will soon be running a sundown 3500D to a IA Warden 15" subwoofer in my Hyundai Tiburon GT. Electrical will be a Mechman 220 amp alternator, a XS power D2400 up front, two XS power D3100's in the back. If I chose 3/0 gauge kicker wire over for example Knukonceptz 1/0 gauge wire would I have less impedance rise? I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but I just wanna double check with you guys to make sure everything is right! The IA Warden 15" sub has 1.4 ohm DVC's and will be wired in parallel to see a theoretical 0.7 ohm load just for reference. Thanks guys, appreciate it. 2011 Ford Ranger Sport 4.0 v6 2 sundown audio prototype nsv4 15s crossfire 4k wired to 0.4 ohm 15 banks of maxwell 3.0 caps @ 18v triple alts (x2 us alt 250's, x1 singer 320) 153 at 23hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake1993 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 wait. to the amp or subs? thought the amp had 8 gauge wire outputs Jacob Sigmund 1 dc level 4 m1 18 1 audiopipe ap1500 2 runs of knu 1/0 Alex Bennington" <[email protected] ^^^ want one one email this guy he will hook you up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Changing power wire won't affect imp rise, box construction will. TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake1993 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 thats what i was thinking. does size of speaker wire affect it too? so bout the slight thread jack there Jacob Sigmund 1 dc level 4 m1 18 1 audiopipe ap1500 2 runs of knu 1/0 Alex Bennington" <[email protected] ^^^ want one one email this guy he will hook you up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94retta(219) Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Changing power wire won't affect imp rise, box construction will. it will?! please explain BUILD LOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr34kout Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Thicker wire will have less resistance from one end to another, but theoretically it shouldn't make that much of a difference as long as you secure everything correctly. Taken from Wikipedia Impedance of 1/0 wire for a 1000 ft run = 0.09827 ohms. Impedance of 3/0 wire for a 1000 ft run = 0.06180 ohms. Bigger wire gives you a bigger cross section and allows you to carry more current. You could run 3/0 from front battery to back batteries, and then 1/0 to the amp. That or multiple runs of 1/0, which ever you decided would be a great choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 thats what i was thinking. does size of speaker wire affect it too? so bout the slight thread jack there Only thing it will change is overall resistance, not your imp rise directly, but indirectly if that makes sense. So if you are like rising to 4 ohm from 1 ohm and you are using 16 gauge wire and go to 8 gauge wire you may see a slight difference, but the imp rise difference will be the same, it would now look something like .9 to 3.9 for example. you are still rising the same amount. If you where wired in parrellel then for every .1 drop it would be half lower. So .1 drop in overall resistance would be .1*.1/ .1+.1 = .05 difference, so .95 to 3.95 TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Thicker wire will have less resistance from one end to another, but theoretically it shouldn't make that much of a difference as long as you secure everything correctly. Taken from Wikipedia Impedance of 1/0 wire for a 1000 ft run = 0.09827 ohms. Impedance of 3/0 wire for a 1000 ft run = 0.06180 ohms. Bigger wire gives you a bigger cross section and allows you to carry more current. You could run 3/0 from front battery to back batteries, and then 1/0 to the amp. That or multiple runs of 1/0, which ever you decided would be a great choice. How is changing power wire going to change the resistance of a coil? Just curious. TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLadd1ct Posted December 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Hmmm so that's what people meant when they said "box rise". You mean box construction as in volume? Tuning frequency? What affects what and in what proportion? For example does increasing the box volume decrease the impedance rise? Very interesting stuff here, I had no idea that the box construction would have any effect on the electrical resistance! 2011 Ford Ranger Sport 4.0 v6 2 sundown audio prototype nsv4 15s crossfire 4k wired to 0.4 ohm 15 banks of maxwell 3.0 caps @ 18v triple alts (x2 us alt 250's, x1 singer 320) 153 at 23hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Hmmm so that's what people meant when they said "box rise". You mean box construction as in volume? Tuning frequency? What affects what and in what proportion? For example does increasing the box volume decrease the impedance rise? Very interesting stuff here, I had no idea that the box construction would have any effect on the electrical resistance! Those are the million dollar questions that the pros try to answer right there. All those things above you mentioned affect imp rise. TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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