P4killer_

haha at quote ^^^ Clams are sick though bro and 8 15's... id love to see that. making your blazer a turd lol is no prob your gonna be cruisin down the block slammin anyway right?

so if you had two of the same subs/box/ and amp are all same except the tuning and you simply lpf'd one sub at like 40hz, then subsonic the other around 40ishhz and Lpf'd it at like idk say 100hz? so you have one sub playing 40 and down, and the other playing 100 to 45 ish hz... is that what your saying?

lol no im not at all looking to buy woofers at this point, i had some budget 12's then moved to fubars and ill be with those for quite awhile the next set of woofer for me will be something sweet like DD's or something. anyway i was just wondering for the sake of wondering because you always see posts on here like oh i got 3 grand what should buy and its always DC, Fi and stuff which is sweet but i got bored and was wanting to see about the other side of the spectrum. i saw someone had a link on here for two 12" *** subs off a sundown 125.2 or something that did 400w rms and the price was like 500 bux i just thought surely something better could be done with $500.. anyways i was just being bored thanks for the replies lol but i have a bit more sense than to be buying boss and stuff lmao ALTHOUGH there are some pyle subs on the for $9!!!! you could buy a couple of those throw em in a 1/4'' box and sell em to some kid off the street for 50 bux, make a lil $ hahahahaha. i think that will about cover my interest in a budget SBM (system builder marathon) type topic for car audio:p thanks for the replies as always P4Killer

lol i know its junk but i was just wondering for the sake of wondering its easy for someone to be like 1 buy DD's 2 buy better subs 3 PM Rusty for Dc's 4 obvi quality is not of abundence here, my questions were more about the principles / or if $50- $65 were the budget for a woofer... im assuming its better to have some bump then none so would you just not buy anything... WHAT IF YOU HAD TO? LOL at the bad monkey though haha, the average person working mcdonalds or something wantin to do something cheap so obvi your options are limited... or just not buy anything in fear of being a "bad monkey"?

BAD A subs for sure it seems kinda up there in the $$$ but im sure they freakin slam

http://www.millionbuy.com/boslac129d.html Its 900RMS on a 3" coil... and 96db sens.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ or for instance: http://www.millionbuy.com/infperfect12vq.html 400W RMS with an 89db sens but this: http://www.millionbuy.com/inf1262w.html same brand $100 dollars less 300W RMS but 96db Sens ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.millionbuy.com/kenkfcw3012dvc.html walmart woofer 400W again, 85db sens they pound though ive heard some -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.millionbuy.com/snyxsl123p5.html 380W 89db -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- anyway as you can see im bored and i always just wonder about these things: if its annoying or something to post like this lol sorry , but i got some questions anyway for instace that boss woofer... specs are monster for that price but i found my fubars for 50 each and had to get em but ive wondered about those. and with infinity: ive always heard that they are solid and im just wondering wtf is the price hike about for ??? 100W RMS? like i dont get it. and if your wondering about my fixation on sens aka SPL : to my understanding SPL is a measure of well SPL 1 meter away on 1w of power. this is to say that: woofer A rated at 300W RMS SPL of 92 and woofer B 600W RMS SPL of 86 if each woofer were tested under the exact same conditions woofer A is theorhectically 6db louder than woofer B up to around 300W RMS... where woofer B would start to gain and eventually become louder above 300W due to a higher power handling ability. Is this right? and if so then the cheaper infinty should be a much better woofer for a performance for the $ comparison... or is it about SQL that drives the $$$ $100 up? as for the last two woofers well they are stereotypical walmart stuff and they seem pretty comparable to the rest of the bunch.. ive heard some walmart beat thats pretty solid I guess im trying to better my woofer selection skills if you will idk just random ?'s and stuff lol again im bored and reading this forum is like crack sometimes its like opening up flood gates, and im just itching to figure out/learn/ rebuild and stuff lol sorrry if this annoys ne1 lol haha thanks again, P4Killer

Its just untill i can finish the build in the back but that could be months from now so, ill set the gains at 2ohms unfortunately i dont just have another smaller amp to use for a small setup just to have some bump in da trunk.

a reason to upgrade, yea but w/o much funds due to college, and life... not really an option but if i did upgrade DD3515's for me

lol thanks, i never did look up how to dmm the gains, i guess ill give that a look see when the time comes thanks bro P4Killer

so im ripping out my equip today if it doesnt rain again, and the thought of having no bump is like .... ouch .... so i was thinking i could use the old box to make a quick single 12 enclosure sealed for sure ported if i have enough scrap, need less to say ill be powering a single PA Fubar 12" which is rated a 800rms i suspect that rating is a little high but anyway... anyway im thinking the output of an amp is linear.. meaning to say the 3000D is rated at 3000 rms @ 1ohm so would that therorhectically sp? be 1500 @ 2, 750 @ 4, 325 @ 8.... anyway the sub is a D4 so ican wire to 2 or 8 ohms, any help is appreciated Thanks P4Killer

those look exactly like the ones on ebay bro, aka trash woofer... i say its a no go

Yea dont cram it bro, theres prolly no way you could build the box outside and put it in after, you might be able to do it if you build it internally, but its would prolly be less than ideal. go ahead and try-- good luck m8

i figured that 1000W RMS was for the (2) subs, i mean hey go for it the look nice for sure 1000W rms for a 2.5" coil .. meh go for it tho

lol kk good subs back to OP? im thinking if hes looking at audiopipes.... FI's are a lil up there in his budget

For instance: http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=20673 Crunch GPV's 700W RMS Dual 2's good reviews, $99 And shipping is free for order over $99... sounds like a better deal to me http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=19473 Or How about the Diamond D3's These are nice subs for 140 each free shipping.. def better than those audio pipes just some examples...

personally ive tried to order subs from that seller VMInnovations, and after i paid for the subs, i was told they are out of stock and it took FOREVER to get my money back. As for the subs $270 Shipped = like $120 ish for each sub. they are rated at 1000W RMS for the pair = 500W RMS per sub... idk audiopipe has always been like the budget sub in my mind just barely above Pyle and like BOSS or something so to me its a lil high in $$$, I guess if the candy blue is really your thing go for it, but I know there are better 15's out there for that kind of money.

Personally they look like old school FUBARS to me, but MOFO's DEF own and def take at least 800W RMS. Shoot I always feel like PA gets hated on alot, Ive been running FUBARS for awhile now, and I love em, and with my 3000 on em they take a beating and then some and dont even break a sweat. But if you got mofos, it should be sick for sure. Ill def have to keep up on your build PS I talked to a customer rep from PA, I was asking about Mofos b/c you cant find any new online anymore. He said they are out and have been for awhile but are launching new ones later this year

Yea i says 4 12's myself not because i run 4 12's too, but... ok maybeeee a lil because of that, but more cone area for sure, plus alot of folks have two 2 L7 setups, be different and prolly louder as well

myth BUSTED or something like that

well thanks alot for the replies guys, anyway i can understand wanting to protect their dealers, thats cool no prob with that. i just think its funny that there is litterally NOTHING online pretty much. maybe it adds to the whole DD mystique lol i just know ima call em up i was thinking 3512's but even for like a 1512a which is 500 rms they be like [big man voice] oh yea i can get you those for 350 each like a NTB of Car audio, instead of oil changes and rip off parts, its rip off carbon cones and packages lol i could be wrong though. its more out of curiosity, ill make tht call when i actually have money, i know dealers tend to hate "curiosity calls"

i was hoping someone could be like um roughly around this much etc etc etc.. obvi ddaudio.com thanks anyway.

Want DD's What are the product lines/ Prices?

Yea on the low end of things, AB subs are kinda iffy (OX, XD, DX) I think. But the XFL's are pretty decent there are 3" Coils I had two of em in my trunk on a 3000D and it was pretty nice. On the TL i could do 144's on music. The top of the line AB Woofer is the HD series (I dont think they make the Comp XFL's anymore) But HD's are def a very nice sub, for the money they are def worth it. The HD's are stiff so they are more SPL than SQ but they are very comparable to AQ HD3C's. I have no experience with their amps. but alot of people use them and I understand they are pretty solid as well.

same thing happened to me a month or two back, terrible sound I was sure I lost a coil or something, but it was a loose box support tis all

yea tht thing looks super redic and i did read about some cooling method or something. and it only take 1cu3 WOW the amount of cone area on tht thing alone is a huge advantage .. I WANT ONE!