ChevyBoy95 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Look at the dc integra or poorboys build on here 2 xl 15s on a 9k..... both have tried 3 subs in a will and both had better luck wit 2 subs Ur jammed for airspace, I would recone to 18s and just do 2.... and be easy on the power goin to em..... or u could try 3 15s, I think ud be better off with 2 subs Just my opinon And get lvl 5s If u don't mind the 40+ lbs lol 18s require 5.5-6 cubes, which for 2 is 11-12 cubes. 3 15s would be around 9 or 10. i dont get your logic for airspace. Quote Best Score to Date : 160.5 dB Outlaw (47Hz)[4 XM 15's & 2 Taramps Bass 12k's] BL : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/147800-chevyboy95s-4-15s-7krms-wall-1533-db-on-half-power/YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/hitemwiththeflex/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA98hoe Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Since when do 18s require 5.5- 6? I run mine in 4cubes each. And. Do 155s thank u Quote TEAM DC AUDIO VEHICLE:98 chevy tahoe 2wd 3-4 drop HEADUNIT:alpine 9886 PREAMP:arcaudio FRONT STAGE:4-6 1/2s selinium,DD component set and 4-selinium tweeters in each door KICKPANELS:jl audio 5 1/4 REAR DOORS: dd components 6 1/2s HIGHS AMPS:zapco 750.2 on front doors,zapco an another 750.2 on kicks and rear doors SUBS:4-ascendant audio 18s with 5 spiders in a custom box built by KINGSUV SUB AMP: 2-dc7.5s ALTERNATORS: 3-mechmans 1- 425comp, 1-smd spec350, 1-270 with adj voltage harness on custom dc bracket WIRE:10-runs 0g front to back BATTERIES:6-d1400s TL results:157.1 at 38hz and 156.8 at headrest score @37hz. STATE AND NATIONAL RECORD IN MECA S5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwright27 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Since when do 18s require 5.5- 6? I run mine in 4cubes each. And. Do 155s thank u Just because you can, don't mean he can an have the same results, that only works with big power Quote 2006 F-150 4 DC XL M2 18's Walled Daily Driver XS Power 4 DC 3.5kw Team DC Team S.P.L. Lot of Audio Technix and 1/0 DC Audio Dealer American Bass Dealer XS Power Dealer Audio Technix Dealer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corona_jeff Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Running the XL to the limit is pointless unless your a hardcore competitor. 1500-2000 watts clamped is ideally what I would use daily, If you want to push the limit and take the subs to the limit and still stay safe, I would say NO MORE then 3k clamped ea. Also change the spider pack to 5 med, 1 dual leaded stiff. I have been using that for over a year now. BUT BE ADVICED, doing this can and will give to issues of sub failure unless your box and loading in 100% dialed in. Edited November 7, 2011 by corona_jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnockinthaStreetzof608 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 You can get the airspace. Baffle are is the tight part for 3 18s and a big enough port. baffle *area well i dont have any baskets of 18 in woofers so i can measure it, but derek on youtube did 3 18 in his 04 mustang, 2 where in the bottom corners and the other was like in between them on top with the 2 ports on top on each side, i was thinking somthing similar to that baffle layout maybe if needed another port inbetween the two bottom woofers Look at the dc integra or poorboys build on here 2 xl 15s on a 9k..... both have tried 3 subs in a will and both had better luck wit 2 subs Ur jammed for airspace, I would recone to 18s and just do 2.... and be easy on the power goin to em..... or u could try 3 15s, I think ud be better off with 2 subs Just my opinon And get lvl 5s If u don't mind the 40+ lbs lol well the reason why is because no one want to buy my xl drivers so i just might as well put them to use, if i do go with 2 woofers then i probley wouldnt go with 2 xls then i was looking more into the crossfire xs v.2 woofers tbh Since when do 18s require 5.5- 6? I run mine in 4cubes each. And. Do 155s thank u Just because you can, don't mean he can an have the same results, that only works with big power how does that work with big power he had before 2 m4's correct ray? and isnt that amp and my 2 aq3500d1 pretty much the same? wouldnt they be similar in power? not counting voltage drop or rise? Running the XL to the limit is pointless unless your a hardcore competitor. 1500-2000 watts clamped is ideally what I would use daily, If you want to push the limit and take the subs to the limit and still stay safe, I would say NO MORE then 3k clamped ea. Also change the spider pack to 5 med, 1 dual leaded stiff. I have been using that for over a year now. BUT BE ADVICED, doing this can and will give to issues of sub failure unless your box and loading in 100% dialed in. whats your term as hardcore competitor? because up coming db drag season i do plan on going to every single show i can idk if the drive is 5+hrs one way, this is going to be my 1st year and i plan on going all out, but most of the time i like going full tilt(highway ofcourse)when going to work or running errands, but as for spider packages are considered i will hear expereniced xl owners on them, and then also speak with rusty and see what he says as well to make my final desision when i order recones, Quote CAR -2005 Ford Mustang (Legand Lime) H/U -Pioneer avh 3200dvd Amps 2 AQ 3500d.1s strapped 1ohm daily .25burps 1Sundown Audio 100.4 1 Sundown Audio 125.2 Subs 4 AQ HDC'4s 12's Mids and highs 4 Sundown Neo Pro 8s 2 AQ Super Tweeters Electronical Mechman 270 unit 1 D3400 2 D3100's WALLED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corona_jeff Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Well going from 1500 clamped per to 3k clamped per yielded a 1.5 db gain. Also the m4a does ALOT more power then an AQ3500.1 . Ones rated @ 14.4v and the other is rated @ 12.9v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA98hoe Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I had my m4s at .7 strapped and could get them smelly if I clipped on music. I started haveing issues when I went to 14v with subs jumping the gap and I ripped triple joints and spiders. Ask rusty I've done things to xls that he's never seen and as a result he improves them. Due the spider pack adjust gains accordingly and buuld a good box. Id go a lil on the small side for that power to control cone area Quote TEAM DC AUDIO VEHICLE:98 chevy tahoe 2wd 3-4 drop HEADUNIT:alpine 9886 PREAMP:arcaudio FRONT STAGE:4-6 1/2s selinium,DD component set and 4-selinium tweeters in each door KICKPANELS:jl audio 5 1/4 REAR DOORS: dd components 6 1/2s HIGHS AMPS:zapco 750.2 on front doors,zapco an another 750.2 on kicks and rear doors SUBS:4-ascendant audio 18s with 5 spiders in a custom box built by KINGSUV SUB AMP: 2-dc7.5s ALTERNATORS: 3-mechmans 1- 425comp, 1-smd spec350, 1-270 with adj voltage harness on custom dc bracket WIRE:10-runs 0g front to back BATTERIES:6-d1400s TL results:157.1 at 38hz and 156.8 at headrest score @37hz. STATE AND NATIONAL RECORD IN MECA S5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnockinthaStreetzof608 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Well going from 1500 clamped per to 3k clamped per yielded a 1.5 db gain. Also the m4a does ALOT more power then an AQ3500.1 . Ones rated @ 14.4v and the other is rated @ 12.9v this is in rays for sale section 3500 @ 11.9v 4800 @ 14.4 so its not like its much different mine is rated at 4200 at 14.4, by your post above your making it seem like it does the same power on mine 14.4 compared to his 11.9v rating? i may not have the alt setup he does but what with a can do i think it will hold up pretty decent with 6d3100s and a d3400, and im saying this without clamping or anythin in my past setups, only clamped numbers i seen with the aq3500d1s was from ami "black nasty" Quote CAR -2005 Ford Mustang (Legand Lime) H/U -Pioneer avh 3200dvd Amps 2 AQ 3500d.1s strapped 1ohm daily .25burps 1Sundown Audio 100.4 1 Sundown Audio 125.2 Subs 4 AQ HDC'4s 12's Mids and highs 4 Sundown Neo Pro 8s 2 AQ Super Tweeters Electronical Mechman 270 unit 1 D3400 2 D3100's WALLED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnockinthaStreetzof608 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) I had my m4s at .7 strapped and could get them smelly if I clipped on music. I started haveing issues when I went to 14v with subs jumping the gap and I ripped triple joints and spiders. Ask rusty I've done things to xls that he's never seen and as a result he improves them. Due the spider pack adjust gains accordingly and buuld a good box. Id go a lil on the small side for that power to control cone area is that .7 each amp? or .35 then? im assuming you mean .35, but ima try to clip them if i do i only do a very soft clip on burps but thats a differnt story ig, as for the small side how small we talking on ethier the 15 or the 18 route? also how much port you think will be a rule of thumb , the last box brian built had around 8.72cubic feet net (this is the entire external size) After port, sub, bracing displacement the box is 6.22cubic feet (3.11cubed per woofer) The box has 94.87 square inches of port (15.25 sq inches of port per cubic foot) but that was for the dual 15 xl's box Edited November 7, 2011 by KnockinthaStreetzof608 Quote CAR -2005 Ford Mustang (Legand Lime) H/U -Pioneer avh 3200dvd Amps 2 AQ 3500d.1s strapped 1ohm daily .25burps 1Sundown Audio 100.4 1 Sundown Audio 125.2 Subs 4 AQ HDC'4s 12's Mids and highs 4 Sundown Neo Pro 8s 2 AQ Super Tweeters Electronical Mechman 270 unit 1 D3400 2 D3100's WALLED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA98hoe Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Jeff knows more about the 15s and what they like than I do. I'm a non wall guy so what works for me may not work for you.. the 3 setup in the mustang is loud. Is that the one with crossfire subs etc? Study who's loudest and what works.. then build and test. Imo 3500 and m4 are same amp. You would think since dad and son own dd an aq Quote TEAM DC AUDIO VEHICLE:98 chevy tahoe 2wd 3-4 drop HEADUNIT:alpine 9886 PREAMP:arcaudio FRONT STAGE:4-6 1/2s selinium,DD component set and 4-selinium tweeters in each door KICKPANELS:jl audio 5 1/4 REAR DOORS: dd components 6 1/2s HIGHS AMPS:zapco 750.2 on front doors,zapco an another 750.2 on kicks and rear doors SUBS:4-ascendant audio 18s with 5 spiders in a custom box built by KINGSUV SUB AMP: 2-dc7.5s ALTERNATORS: 3-mechmans 1- 425comp, 1-smd spec350, 1-270 with adj voltage harness on custom dc bracket WIRE:10-runs 0g front to back BATTERIES:6-d1400s TL results:157.1 at 38hz and 156.8 at headrest score @37hz. STATE AND NATIONAL RECORD IN MECA S5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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