99fullsizechevy Posted January 19, 2012 Report Posted January 19, 2012 After displacements you should be fine for either setup unless you go crazy on the bracing and then may be a little small for an 18 Edit, another thing to take in account if you do a single 18 yes you would have have the wow factor of it for a little while, but soon after that starts to die away you will just want to be louder and not care what size driver you have.. Laying frame soon.. System has to wait
SnowDrifter Posted January 19, 2012 Report Posted January 19, 2012 2 12s is a bit less cone but i'd go with that if loudness is your only factor. nasty lows are more dependent on box than sub size. honestly i'd rather say spend a bit more and get a single 18 sp4 or N2 on 2k if you're sticking with fi. but that's my preference. Very true, but let me throw this out there: You need less port length to tune low with an 18" box (say 6 cuft net) vs a box for 2 12s (say 4 cuft net). Shorter port length will yield a gain in efficiency too. Just a thought ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444
71fordranger Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Posted January 19, 2012 2 12s is a bit less cone but i'd go with that if loudness is your only factor. nasty lows are more dependent on box than sub size. honestly i'd rather say spend a bit more and get a single 18 sp4 or N2 on 2k if you're sticking with fi. but that's my preference. Very true, but let me throw this out there: You need less port length to tune low with an 18" box (say 6 cuft net) vs a box for 2 12s (say 4 cuft net). Shorter port length will yield a gain in efficiency too. Just a thought Hmmm.... Never even thought of that. Bring on the Rockfords!!
bkolfo4 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Posted January 19, 2012 Very true, but let me throw this out there: You need less port length to tune low with an 18" box (say 6 cuft net) vs a box for 2 12s (say 4 cuft net). Shorter port length will yield a gain in efficiency too. The 18 would require a larger port, so the shorter port theory may not be true. Why is the shorter port more efficient? I have never heard anyone say this. Is there theory or math behind that statement to back it up? Not being an a$$, just curious. Current system: 1997 Blazer - (4) Customer Fi NEO subs with (8) American Bass Elite 2800.1s Previous systems: 2000 Suburban - (4) BTL 15's and (4) IA 40.1's = 157.7 dB at 37 Hz. 1992 Astro Van - (6) BTL 15's and (6) IA 40.1's = 159.7 dB at 43 Hz.
71fordranger Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Posted January 19, 2012 IMO I look at it this way, you may have a smidgen more in come area but half the power, therefore your over all output may not be as optimal as you would like. Under perfect circumstances and perfectly build boxes for the both and a chargin system to hold 2kw I say the 2 12s would be more to my liking which is more output Yea that's wat I was thinking but after looking for an altnator, there is almost no choose for my car unless I do custom, powerbastards r the only 1s with anything for my car. :/ Bring on the Rockfords!!
99fullsizechevy Posted January 19, 2012 Report Posted January 19, 2012 Very true, but let me throw this out there: You need less port length to tune low with an 18" box (say 6 cuft net) vs a box for 2 12s (say 4 cuft net). Shorter port length will yield a gain in efficiency too. The 18 would require a larger port, so the shorter port theory may not be true. Why is the shorter port more efficient? I have never heard anyone say this. Is there theory or math behind that statement to back it up? Not being an a$$, just curious. X2 can you elaborate on that a little bit? Only thing I could think of where as the length isnt as long it would be less the port has to "control" the sound waves and would affect the louding on the woofer.. But idk Laying frame soon.. System has to wait
99fullsizechevy Posted January 19, 2012 Report Posted January 19, 2012 Yea that's wat I was thinking but after looking for an altnator, there is almost no choose for my car unless I do custom, powerbastards r the only 1s with anything for my car. :/ Have you tryed everywhere? Dc power mechman, singer Alts, I think Ohio gen still makes some Laying frame soon.. System has to wait
71fordranger Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Posted January 19, 2012 I've looked, maybe u guys can help. It's a 1991 Plymouth sundance with a Chrysler 2.2 L 4 cylinder in it. Bring on the Rockfords!!
WillPwn4Food Posted January 19, 2012 Report Posted January 19, 2012 What kind of amp are you using? The RMS of the subs doesn't matter if the amp is only going to be 1000wrms max. If it is only 1000w rms, having two 12's that are requiring 1000 each would be way underpowered. I heard FI can eat power like a mofo, so I'd even send a little over rms. As far as which gets lower, you really can't say. I have a 12" that sounds absolutely amazing and hits the lows that I can't even hear on my 15". It's all about enclosure design. People have hit in the 150's with 8 15's.... And then there's others that have the same numbers with a single 18". I don't know if I missed it, but I didn't see if you specified whether you want it to be loud as hell, or if you want it to sound musically eargasmic. As for wow factor, yes, an 18" is more.... exotic you could say... But if you're skilled enough, you can make an enclosure for 2 12's look super clean, and really nice. Wall build: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/174827-walled-taurus-with-lambo-doors/#entry2571893 real men dont use fuses Neither do moronsSays the guy with lambo doors on his Ford Taurus.
99fullsizechevy Posted January 19, 2012 Report Posted January 19, 2012 I googled it and got this http://www.mechmanhighoutputalternators.com/shop/products/270-Amp-Chrysler-Dodge-Alternator.html Looked again and seem I had the wrong link, yours should be this one http://www.mechmanhighoutputalternators.com/shop/products/270a-High-Output-Densto-Style-Dodge%7B47%7DChrysler.html Laying frame soon.. System has to wait
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