FeArZ Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) Ok here's a rough pic of my Nendo It should look somewhat similar to your amp. The main things you want to focus on are subsonic, LPF, and gain. Other can chime in as I'm tired. So that means you have everything turned down to the minimum. now to put it set at 30hz all you would do is adjust the gain and the subsonic but leave the lpf alone right??? I would adjust the subsonic. Now this can take trial and error as I don't know what your box is tuned to and you could hurt you subs if they play to low listen for bottoming out or if it starts to smell funny. Now with the gain I wouldn't go past 1/4-1/2 until you know you have a clean signal. Edited April 10, 2012 by FeArZ Quote 2009 Tahoe 2000bc Cresendo POWA Need 3500 2 Sundown Zv3 18 high rolled sexiness dual alt bracket with Singer alt(coming soon) Mtx Q(not sure if I'm going to use) Knu wire and RCA's Bass Head Bands Oh and a few pairs of Jordan's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTMANTHAKID305 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ok. you cant really "tune" a ported box with your amp. i mean you sorta can. ok so your box is tuned at a specific frequency. most likely it is a 45 hz + tuning. most prefab boxes are high tuned. most of the time you want to set your subsonic filter about 5 hz below tuning frequency to protect woofers. in your case, i would think that your port area on that box is too small and you may get enough pressure to save your woofers. try this. set your subsonic at about 30 hz. and your LPF at about 80 hz and play a wider variety of music and make sure speker doesnt bottom out. ( you hear a click noise) or you here the woofer unloading where no tone is produced and speaker is flailing and moving air. then set your gain accordingly trying not to clip. you can adjust your subsonic and LPF to see what they do. the lower you set your subsonic filter, the more lowend you will bring out, but if you bring too much out you can wreck your woofers from unloading. find the sweetspot where you get most bass and lowend and speakers still protected. Thanks that's what i was looking for all along, so in all essence when i have a box built i have to select the frequency i want to play it at mainly and i tweak it with that frequency being the base right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 im going to bed. if you want any questions answered you can pm me. ill answer it later today. peace Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ok. you cant really "tune" a ported box with your amp. i mean you sorta can. ok so your box is tuned at a specific frequency. most likely it is a 45 hz + tuning. most prefab boxes are high tuned. most of the time you want to set your subsonic filter about 5 hz below tuning frequency to protect woofers. in your case, i would think that your port area on that box is too small and you may get enough pressure to save your woofers. try this. set your subsonic at about 30 hz. and your LPF at about 80 hz and play a wider variety of music and make sure speker doesnt bottom out. ( you hear a click noise) or you here the woofer unloading where no tone is produced and speaker is flailing and moving air. then set your gain accordingly trying not to clip. you can adjust your subsonic and LPF to see what they do. the lower you set your subsonic filter, the more lowend you will bring out, but if you bring too much out you can wreck your woofers from unloading. find the sweetspot where you get most bass and lowend and speakers still protected. Thanks that's what i was looking for all along, so in all essence when i have a box built i have to select the frequency i want to play it at mainly and i tweak it with that frequency being the base right??? i dont quite understand your epiphany ahha. yes when building a ported box you must select a frequency to tune it at based on vechicle and on subs being used. then set subsonic filter and LPF to get desired frequency response while protecting speakers Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTMANTHAKID305 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 im going to bed. if you want any questions answered you can pm me. ill answer it later today. peace GOD BLESS YOU AND GOOD NIGHT!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE HELPFUL INFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewbie Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ok. you cant really "tune" a ported box with your amp. i mean you sorta can. ok so your box is tuned at a specific frequency. most likely it is a 45 hz + tuning. most prefab boxes are high tuned. most of the time you want to set your subsonic filter about 5 hz below tuning frequency to protect woofers. in your case, i would think that your port area on that box is too small and you may get enough pressure to save your woofers. try this. set your subsonic at about 30 hz. and your LPF at about 80 hz and play a wider variety of music and make sure speker doesnt bottom out. ( you hear a click noise) or you here the woofer unloading where no tone is produced and speaker is flailing and moving air. then set your gain accordingly trying not to clip. you can adjust your subsonic and LPF to see what they do. the lower you set your subsonic filter, the more lowend you will bring out, but if you bring too much out you can wreck your woofers from unloading. find the sweetspot where you get most bass and lowend and speakers still protected. Thanks that's what i was looking for all along, so in all essence when i have a box built i have to select the frequency i want to play it at mainly and i tweak it with that frequency being the base right??? When you create your box, you will choose a freq.. some like 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, and most.. don't like 40. It's all preference. I am trying to learn the whole low pass ect but your SSF Subsonic filter is basicly to stop the freq from being sent.. so let's say your box is tuned to 33 hertz, you have your subsonic at 28, the amplifier won't send a signal under 28 hertz to protect your subwoofer. Quote Check out my build log: http://www.stevemead...60#entry1958353 Different folks have different strokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTMANTHAKID305 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ok. you cant really "tune" a ported box with your amp. i mean you sorta can. ok so your box is tuned at a specific frequency. most likely it is a 45 hz + tuning. most prefab boxes are high tuned. most of the time you want to set your subsonic filter about 5 hz below tuning frequency to protect woofers. in your case, i would think that your port area on that box is too small and you may get enough pressure to save your woofers. try this. set your subsonic at about 30 hz. and your LPF at about 80 hz and play a wider variety of music and make sure speker doesnt bottom out. ( you hear a click noise) or you here the woofer unloading where no tone is produced and speaker is flailing and moving air. then set your gain accordingly trying not to clip. you can adjust your subsonic and LPF to see what they do. the lower you set your subsonic filter, the more lowend you will bring out, but if you bring too much out you can wreck your woofers from unloading. find the sweetspot where you get most bass and lowend and speakers still protected. Thanks that's what i was looking for all along, so in all essence when i have a box built i have to select the frequency i want to play it at mainly and i tweak it with that frequency being the base right??? i dont quite understand your epiphany ahha. yes when building a ported box you must select a frequency to tune it at based on vechicle and on subs being used. then set subsonic filter and LPF to get desired frequency response while protecting speakers Ok i got it now it make a whole lot more sense no wonder why my lows are good but not the best. thanks you've been very helpful!!! but one more thing i'm not quite getting what does the subsonic do to the bass??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeArZ Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) ok. you cant really "tune" a ported box with your amp. i mean you sorta can. ok so your box is tuned at a specific frequency. most likely it is a 45 hz + tuning. most prefab boxes are high tuned. most of the time you want to set your subsonic filter about 5 hz below tuning frequency to protect woofers. in your case, i would think that your port area on that box is too small and you may get enough pressure to save your woofers. try this. set your subsonic at about 30 hz. and your LPF at about 80 hz and play a wider variety of music and make sure speker doesnt bottom out. ( you hear a click noise) or you here the woofer unloading where no tone is produced and speaker is flailing and moving air. then set your gain accordingly trying not to clip. you can adjust your subsonic and LPF to see what they do. the lower you set your subsonic filter, the more lowend you will bring out, but if you bring too much out you can wreck your woofers from unloading. find the sweetspot where you get most bass and lowend and speakers still protected. Thanks that's what i was looking for all along, so in all essence when i have a box built i have to select the frequency i want to play it at mainly and i tweak it with that frequency being the base right??? Kind of lost on what the question is. Most people get the box tuned to the type of music they listen to. Most rap I have is about 28-37hz so I have my box tuned to 33hz and my subsonic is 28hz. LPF is 80. Now I can play rock and stuff, but my box is not tuned for it. Edited April 10, 2012 by FeArZ Quote 2009 Tahoe 2000bc Cresendo POWA Need 3500 2 Sundown Zv3 18 high rolled sexiness dual alt bracket with Singer alt(coming soon) Mtx Q(not sure if I'm going to use) Knu wire and RCA's Bass Head Bands Oh and a few pairs of Jordan's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ok. you cant really "tune" a ported box with your amp. i mean you sorta can. ok so your box is tuned at a specific frequency. most likely it is a 45 hz + tuning. most prefab boxes are high tuned. most of the time you want to set your subsonic filter about 5 hz below tuning frequency to protect woofers. in your case, i would think that your port area on that box is too small and you may get enough pressure to save your woofers. try this. set your subsonic at about 30 hz. and your LPF at about 80 hz and play a wider variety of music and make sure speker doesnt bottom out. ( you hear a click noise) or you here the woofer unloading where no tone is produced and speaker is flailing and moving air. then set your gain accordingly trying not to clip. you can adjust your subsonic and LPF to see what they do. the lower you set your subsonic filter, the more lowend you will bring out, but if you bring too much out you can wreck your woofers from unloading. find the sweetspot where you get most bass and lowend and speakers still protected. Thanks that's what i was looking for all along, so in all essence when i have a box built i have to select the frequency i want to play it at mainly and i tweak it with that frequency being the base right??? When you create your box, you will choose a freq.. some like 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, and most.. don't like 40. It's all preference. I am trying to learn the whole low pass ect but your SSF Subsonic filter is basicly to stop the freq from being sent.. so let's say your box is tuned to 33 hertz, you have your subsonic at 28, the amplifier won't send a signal under 28 hertz to protect your subwoofer. i saw this just before i got off. the filters are called filters for a reason. they dont just cut off all notes at the frequency you set to. they cut of db per octive. so it is a gradual slope cutoff. LPF is the cutoff on the high end. subsonic filter is cutoff on the lowend. they filter out frequencys above or below them. thats why it will be different in every system cause the amp filters will be different maybe, or loading in vechicle wil be different. thats why you must play with it and find settings you like best while keepign woofer safe. so LPF cuts off bass notes above frequency you set to. and subsonic filter cuts of frequencies below what is set to. but it does not cut off all frequencies to 0 it just makes the notes have less amplitude. the further they get away from the setting you have. Quote Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTMANTHAKID305 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ok. you cant really "tune" a ported box with your amp. i mean you sorta can. ok so your box is tuned at a specific frequency. most likely it is a 45 hz + tuning. most prefab boxes are high tuned. most of the time you want to set your subsonic filter about 5 hz below tuning frequency to protect woofers. in your case, i would think that your port area on that box is too small and you may get enough pressure to save your woofers. try this. set your subsonic at about 30 hz. and your LPF at about 80 hz and play a wider variety of music and make sure speker doesnt bottom out. ( you hear a click noise) or you here the woofer unloading where no tone is produced and speaker is flailing and moving air. then set your gain accordingly trying not to clip. you can adjust your subsonic and LPF to see what they do. the lower you set your subsonic filter, the more lowend you will bring out, but if you bring too much out you can wreck your woofers from unloading. find the sweetspot where you get most bass and lowend and speakers still protected. Thanks that's what i was looking for all along, so in all essence when i have a box built i have to select the frequency i want to play it at mainly and i tweak it with that frequency being the base right??? When you create your box, you will choose a freq.. some like 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, and most.. don't like 40. It's all preference. I am trying to learn the whole low pass ect but your SSF Subsonic filter is basicly to stop the freq from being sent.. so let's say your box is tuned to 33 hertz, you have your subsonic at 28, the amplifier won't send a signal under 28 hertz to protect your subwoofer. oh ok now i get it thnks i know it was a mistake but the whole time i had my bass boost at max, my subsonic at minimum and my frequency at maybe 80 so does the frequency work the same that number is where it picks up the bass untill the lowest you set your subsonic filter for??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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