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I have heard a pair of HDC 15's and they're loud, peaky, close your throat up subs. If you listen to a lot of rap they can make you smile. If you want detailed, warm, smooth, then these are not the sub for you.

Oh and before people say they don't or do get low, they'll play whatever frequency the box allows them to. Tune it low and it will murder lows (but people tend to say that you can tune them around 38 and somehow be loud in the high 20's. I doubt that seriously).

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I have heard a pair of HDC 15's and they're loud, peaky, close your throat up subs. If you listen to a lot of rap they can make you smile. If you want detailed, warm, smooth, then these are not the sub for you.

Oh and before people say they don't or do get low, they'll play whatever frequency the box allows them to. Tune it low and it will murder lows (but people tend to say that you can tune them around 38 and somehow be loud in the high 20's. I doubt that seriously).

Thanks for the info but what exactly do you mean peaky??? and most of my friends do listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. I know what you mean about the enclosure too. Here where I live, kicker L7's are cream of the crop ( if you don't have them you're not cool ) and Ive heard some in pre fab boxes that sound real crappy and Ive also heard some in properly designed boxes that make them sound pretty damn loud and get low as hell. I like the subs but for like 350 a piece for 15's ( local shop price ) I could get a FI BL or a nice sundown or something.

Peaky as in....some frequencies will be louder than others. If you played a sweep, it would get louder at some point. 99.99999% of all sub setups have a peak, so it's not a bad thing, but if you're looking for smoothness then the HDC ain't for you. It's not a bad subwoofer at all. It's actually very good at what it does (which is getting LOUD). I didn't like the way they sounded but that's just me.

I saw a video on youtube last night, I guy running 2 HDC 10"s from the trunk pulling 146.9

Another forum showed a build in a small suv with 2 hdc310's doing 153's no shit, he had 5k on them

Cuz they get fucking LOUD. We never metered the setup but they made it hard to breathe on just an AP1500d. They were tuned to 36 and peaked hard as hell (output dropped dramatically at about 32hz and under). I'm sure we could've rebuilt the box to make it smoother but there was no need, they were loud and the owner was happy.

EDIT: Oh and purplesyrup don't let burp scores give you a boner. Like the guy above me said one SA-8 has hit a 50 before but would you buy one and expect to do 45's on music? Nope. You're looking for daily performance so don't get sucked into burp numbers.

Ohhh okay, I get it now thanks man. Okay So I know sealed boxes give a way smoother frequency response curve. I know it won't be as loud but would you say this would help the peakyness and still get decently loud?

HDC3s dont like sealed.

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You might be a Redneck if you use your leftover gutters for a speaker box port...

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There is also me too. I have dealt with 10s and 15s in the hdc3, the 10s wanted alot of power, 2k per sub barely got them moving, run alot of port area and then do pretty well on the meter. I personally like the 15s.

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There is also me too. I have dealt with 10s and 15s in the hdc3, the 10s wanted alot of power, 2k per sub barely got them moving, run alot of port area and then do pretty well on the meter. I personally like the 15s.

Is that after break in man. Im just looking to learn here and maybe pointing a buddy in the AQ direction but I know he's not into car audio the way we are and waste money running proper electrical to keep up with something as big as an AQ3500 which would give the 2k RMS to 2 as you suggested.

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ported boxes can be designed to give a flat response.

purplesyrup, if you are looking to be impressive, put a HDC3 10 on the AQ 2200 @ 1 ohm. these things love power. they are stiffer than you in bed with a hot chick. put it in like 1.5 - 1.75 cubes net and tune 35-38 and watch that thing get down. I have personal experience with the HDC3 10s and 12s. they hit lows like you wouldnt believe. but if you are looking for the all around sound quality stick with the DDs. aha. AQ makes a good woofer dont get me wrong but dont expect it to sound like your 95

So a properly designed box may help the peakynes? maybe something designed by PWK, Im aware that he knows his acoustics really well and takes into account many things.

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I have heard a pair of HDC 15's and they're loud, peaky, close your throat up subs. If you listen to a lot of rap they can make you smile. If you want detailed, warm, smooth, then these are not the sub for you.

Oh and before people say they don't or do get low, they'll play whatever frequency the box allows them to. Tune it low and it will murder lows (but people tend to say that you can tune them around 38 and somehow be loud in the high 20's. I doubt that seriously).

Thanks for the info but what exactly do you mean peaky??? and most of my friends do listen to a lot of rap and hip hop. I know what you mean about the enclosure too. Here where I live, kicker L7's are cream of the crop ( if you don't have them you're not cool ) and Ive heard some in pre fab boxes that sound real crappy and Ive also heard some in properly designed boxes that make them sound pretty damn loud and get low as hell. I like the subs but for like 350 a piece for 15's ( local shop price ) I could get a FI BL or a nice sundown or something.

where do you live, OK? I was in stillwater, OK for a year and a half at OK state for school, Kicker had a plant right across the lake from the disc golf course.

I live in NYC and the trend here are L7's and EV's man. look into any car with a loud system and you have a really good chance of finding 1 of the 2 haha

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ported boxes can be designed to give a flat response.

purplesyrup, if you are looking to be impressive, put a HDC3 10 on the AQ 2200 @ 1 ohm. these things love power. they are stiffer than you in bed with a hot chick. put it in like 1.5 - 1.75 cubes net and tune 35-38 and watch that thing get down. I have personal experience with the HDC3 10s and 12s. they hit lows like you wouldnt believe. but if you are looking for the all around sound quality stick with the DDs. aha. AQ makes a good woofer dont get me wrong but dont expect it to sound like your 95

So a properly designed box may help the peakynes? maybe something designed by PWK, Im aware that he knows his acoustics really well and takes into account many things.

a properly designed ported box can produce a flat response. PWK IS NOT the end all be all box designer. i guess if you dont have a lot of experience you could ask me, AMI customs, Ray. I know AMI and I have had experience with AQ but not sure about Ray but I know Ray does well designing boxes. but a lot of it depends on your vechicle and tons of testing. the first box you do may not yield the results you are looking for. But i will say 9/10 go ported. and especially with AQ woofers go ported and give them a lot of port. Like i said before, these things are stiff as fawk. give them at least 1.5k a piece and they will start to move. ahah. If you want a design i could help you.

but sealed is def not the way to go with AQ or almost all high output applications. dont get me wrong, sealed can work in other applications with other subs, but with those subs go ported.

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ported boxes can be designed to give a flat response.

purplesyrup, if you are looking to be impressive, put a HDC3 10 on the AQ 2200 @ 1 ohm. these things love power. they are stiffer than you in bed with a hot chick. put it in like 1.5 - 1.75 cubes net and tune 35-38 and watch that thing get down. I have personal experience with the HDC3 10s and 12s. they hit lows like you wouldnt believe. but if you are looking for the all around sound quality stick with the DDs. aha. AQ makes a good woofer dont get me wrong but dont expect it to sound like your 95

So a properly designed box may help the peakynes? maybe something designed by PWK, Im aware that he knows his acoustics really well and takes into account many things.

a properly designed ported box can produce a flat response. PWK IS NOT the end all be all box designer. i guess if you dont have a lot of experience you could ask me, AMI customs, Ray. I know AMI and I have had experience with AQ but not sure about Ray but I know Ray does well designing boxes. but a lot of it depends on your vechicle and tons of testing. the first box you do may not yield the results you are looking for. But i will say 9/10 go ported. and especially with AQ woofers go ported and give them a lot of port. Like i said before, these things are stiff as fawk. give them at least 1.5k a piece and they will start to move. ahah. If you want a design i could help you.

but sealed is def not the way to go with AQ or almost all high output applications. dont get me wrong, sealed can work in other applications with other subs, but with those subs go ported.

whats our AQ quote..

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DD's do both...letssss gooo DD

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ported boxes can be designed to give a flat response.

purplesyrup, if you are looking to be impressive, put a HDC3 10 on the AQ 2200 @ 1 ohm. these things love power. they are stiffer than you in bed with a hot chick. put it in like 1.5 - 1.75 cubes net and tune 35-38 and watch that thing get down. I have personal experience with the HDC3 10s and 12s. they hit lows like you wouldnt believe. but if you are looking for the all around sound quality stick with the DDs. aha. AQ makes a good woofer dont get me wrong but dont expect it to sound like your 95

So a properly designed box may help the peakynes? maybe something designed by PWK, Im aware that he knows his acoustics really well and takes into account many things.

a properly designed ported box can produce a flat response. PWK IS NOT the end all be all box designer. i guess if you dont have a lot of experience you could ask me, AMI customs, Ray. I know AMI and I have had experience with AQ but not sure about Ray but I know Ray does well designing boxes. but a lot of it depends on your vechicle and tons of testing. the first box you do may not yield the results you are looking for. But i will say 9/10 go ported. and especially with AQ woofers go ported and give them a lot of port. Like i said before, these things are stiff as fawk. give them at least 1.5k a piece and they will start to move. ahah. If you want a design i could help you.

but sealed is def not the way to go with AQ or almost all high output applications. dont get me wrong, sealed can work in other applications with other subs, but with those subs go ported.

whats our AQ quote..

They get down, but dont GET UP

DD's do both...letssss gooo DD

I heard a pair of DD's and they are awesome but when taking into account price, I don't have tons of money to poor into my system ( college life ) like that so if I were to choose id go AQ with a budget you get an awesome bang for your buck with AQ

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ported boxes can be designed to give a flat response.

purplesyrup, if you are looking to be impressive, put a HDC3 10 on the AQ 2200 @ 1 ohm. these things love power. they are stiffer than you in bed with a hot chick. put it in like 1.5 - 1.75 cubes net and tune 35-38 and watch that thing get down. I have personal experience with the HDC3 10s and 12s. they hit lows like you wouldnt believe. but if you are looking for the all around sound quality stick with the DDs. aha. AQ makes a good woofer dont get me wrong but dont expect it to sound like your 95

So a properly designed box may help the peakynes? maybe something designed by PWK, Im aware that he knows his acoustics really well and takes into account many things.

a properly designed ported box can produce a flat response. PWK IS NOT the end all be all box designer. i guess if you dont have a lot of experience you could ask me, AMI customs, Ray. I know AMI and I have had experience with AQ but not sure about Ray but I know Ray does well designing boxes. but a lot of it depends on your vechicle and tons of testing. the first box you do may not yield the results you are looking for. But i will say 9/10 go ported. and especially with AQ woofers go ported and give them a lot of port. Like i said before, these things are stiff as fawk. give them at least 1.5k a piece and they will start to move. ahah. If you want a design i could help you.

but sealed is def not the way to go with AQ or almost all high output applications. dont get me wrong, sealed can work in other applications with other subs, but with those subs go ported.

Thanks a lot man, I understand the trial and error part of it. Ive done it but in an engineering lab. If and when decide to get a pair i will definitely hit you up with questions xbox a box design

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