SnowDrifter Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 12v is every reason for it to be making 270a No never that. Because DC power NEVER makes a bad product! Just to be clear, this thread was not started to bash DC or their products. If the alt is bad, then so be it, I'm sure DC will make it right. I just don't want to send it back to them for repair until I am certain it is the problem. he's not bashing it. cody is being sarcastic because brian seems to think that a company can never make a mistake when building something and in turn ship a "damaged" unit. Im not even defending DC Power.... Im giving him reasons on why his alternator is not clamping out at 270amps, when there is clearly no reason for it to be making 270amps... And FYI Ive been selling more MechMan alts for people recently then DC Power... lol 12v is every reason for it to be making 270a. Anyhooo... I'm going to bed. Going to think a bit more on this and see if I can't come up with something ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crandis16 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Jesus people. Let's stay on track and use some PRODUCTIVE help for the guy. This thread has gone to shit, sorry OP good luck with issue captain My Red zx2 Build Log My Black zx2 Build Log My Red zx2 UBL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Brian I think the part where he is losing you and disagrees is that his voltage should not be dropping if the alternator were charging properly. With a 270a alt, 1 D3100, and a 2500w amp, there should be NO voltage drop period. Now to go back to a few useful posts here, as AMI said, check ALL of your connections. Just 1 loose power or ground connection can cause this issue. If the connections are not the issue, then I would suspect a faulty alternator. I have been shipped a dead alt before, it happens. Parts go bad, they may bench out when they are first assembled and shipped, but shit happens and parts may be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I feel like we are getting caught up in the details and getting distracted from the issue at hand. Issue is the alternator is not producing enough power to keep the voltage up - and is producing way under what it should be capable of, regardless of the amp, regardless of the fuse going to the amp. At the end of the day: it's 12v and 180a coming from a 270a alt, which is less than acceptable performance wise. ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I guess you missed my post lol, one of two things is happening Bad connection or bad alt That explains the voltage drop with low output current regardless of what amp is connected. OR there is a output delay due to PCM control. TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Brian I think the part where he is losing you and disagrees is that his voltage should not be dropping if the alternator were charging properly. With a 270a alt, 1 D3100, and a 2500w amp, there should be NO voltage drop period. Now to go back to a few useful posts here, as AMI said, check ALL of your connections. Just 1 loose power or ground connection can cause this issue. If the connections are not the issue, then I would suspect a faulty alternator. I have been shipped a dead alt before, it happens. Parts go bad, they may bench out when they are first assembled and shipped, but shit happens and parts may be bad. I guess you missed my post lol, one of two things is happening Bad connection or bad alt That explains the voltage drop with low output current regardless of what amp is connected. OR there is a output delay due to PCM control. I tried to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVOofRustler Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Is it possible that the battery is fried? I'm not too familiar with how batteries work, but if one or more cells are dead, wouldn't that bring the voltage down? It might be useful to see if it acts differently with the truck off. However, I still don't know if that would explain a lack in output. 2002 Dodge Dakota 4.7 club cab - Sold 2004 Audi S4 Avant - Fi and Crescendo - Stock Bose System - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/147725-2002-dodge-dakota-end-of-the-road/?hl=%202002%20%20dakota 136.4 Sealed @ 29hz 137.0 Drivers window open @ 26hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 NO SHIT, I GET IT, I gave you stuff to check and do and you will have a resolution, trust me I know this SHIT!!!!! LMAO TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I guess you missed my post lol, one of two things is happening Bad connection or bad alt That explains the voltage drop with low output current regardless of what amp is connected. OR there is a output delay due to PCM control. I checked the connections and nothing ^seemed* loose or dangerous, but I didn't go over with a fine tooth comb by any means. I'd believe the lag: but this is 5-10 second issue we are talking about. Do you think that is still a possibility? I was also thinking about the bad alt, since the power is almost exactly 2/3 what it should be - like a bad winding or something. Greg: if you want to come up to my house one of these days, we take a really detailed look at everything ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 NO SHIT, I GET IT, I gave you stuff to check and do and you will have a resolution, trust me I know this SHIT!!!!! LMAO Joo dont know shit and your wall is ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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