Kevin Wright Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 From what Ive been told from my brother and our friend the X series subs take all the power an AQ 2200 can throw out at 1 ohm and still beg for more. So from what Ive been hearing and what their tests with prototypes showed, you might want to upgrade a little on the power side in the future. But for now that amp will do what you want it to do. For now...lol everyone upgrades. Sorry I haven't been on to answer and thank everybody for their responses, but my little boy has been sick and I've had to take time away from work etc... Anyways, I decided I needed more power to correctly push this bad boy so I got a great deal on a brand new Alpine MRX-M240. RMS Power Output @ 2 Ohms 2400 Watts and everywhere I read people were saying that brith sheets ranged from 2560-2700 @2 ohms. Plus, I got it brand new for $350.00 and free shipping to boot!! I know there are plenty better deals out there for amps @1ohm but I am dealing with a 2ohm setup here... After extensive searching and 2 different deals falling through I settled on this guy. I am getting it tomorrow so I will check back in for anyone who might be interested in the particulars. If anyone has any first hand experience with this particular amp then any constructive input is always welcome, and as long as respect is shown, respect is always given. Thanks again for any help. 1 Quote Current System Deck: Pioneer DEH-80PRS (3-WAY ACTIVE) Incriminator Audio 3.4 4 Channel (75x4 @4 ohm) (2) NVX X-Series Active Tweeters (2) SB Acoustics SB16PFC25-8 6" 8 ohm Paper Cone Woofers Subs: (2) Sundown Audio SA-12's Amp: (1) Kicker CX 1800.l (43CXA1800.1) 2016 Model (It is rated 1800 @2 ohm but I have it running at 1 ohm, does a little over 2500!) Big 3 w/ 1/0 gauge wire (1) XS Power D4800 under the hood (1) Duracell Group 31 Deep Cycle (4) Runs of KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable (2 pos, 2 neg) (1) KONfused 4-way Power and Ground Block Alternator: DC Power XP 270 High Output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorMunro Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 I have a t1500bdcp on a X12 @2ohms. It slams all day. My gain on my amp is at 3 out of 11. This sub is a pig, it wants more. But I can say it sounds great, box is 2.75@32hz. My birth sheet was 1700@2ohms. Which I will never see in real world use. I fig my sub is seeing about 1300-1400 watts. No issues at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 From what Ive been told from my brother and our friend the X series subs take all the power an AQ 2200 can throw out at 1 ohm and still beg for more. So from what Ive been hearing and what their tests with prototypes showed, you might want to upgrade a little on the power side in the future. But for now that amp will do what you want it to do. For now...lol everyone upgrades. Sorry I haven't been on to answer and thank everybody for their responses, but my little boy has been sick and I've had to take time away from work etc...Anyways, I decided I needed more power to correctly push this bad boy so I got a great deal on a brand new Alpine MRX-M240. RMS Power Output @ 2 Ohms 2400 Watts and everywhere I read people were saying that brith sheets ranged from 2560-2700 @2 ohms. Plus, I got it brand new for $350.00 and free shipping to boot!! I know there are plenty better deals out there for amps @1ohm but I am dealing with a 2ohm setup here... After extensive searching and 2 different deals falling through I settled on this guy. I am getting it tomorrow so I will check back in for anyone who might be interested in the particulars. If anyone has any first hand experience with this particular amp then any constructive input is always welcome, and as long as respect is shown, respect is always given. Thanks again for any help. That amp should work just fine but be prepared to step up your electrical some. Also it probably won't do the entire 2400 watts its rated at, more like something in the 1800-2000 watts of usable power which is still enough. I would build a box for the sub as well if it were me. I would go with 2.5 cubes after displacement with 2 4" aeroports and tune it to 34hz or so. Those sub's are meant to be in a larger box than the other Sundown subs and the larger box should handle that amount of power just fine as long as you are responsible with the volume. 1 Quote 2013 VW Jetta GLI 2.0 Turbo 1 Sundown Audio SCV2000 1 Sundown Audio X15 V2 1 XS Power D3100 Audio Control LC6i Stock Deck 146.4 sealed on the dash at 37hz 2001 Focus ZX3: RETIRED Team Sundown Audio, Team XS Power, 2 time NSPL Car 3601-Up Champion, 2 time NSPL Car Hardcore ChampionHighest NSPL Scores to date:154.3db on the dash sealed at 46hz, 156.2db in the kick at 46hz155.2db unofficial on dash at 43hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wright Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 From what Ive been told from my brother and our friend the X series subs take all the power an AQ 2200 can throw out at 1 ohm and still beg for more. So from what Ive been hearing and what their tests with prototypes showed, you might want to upgrade a little on the power side in the future. But for now that amp will do what you want it to do. For now...lol everyone upgrades. Sorry I haven't been on to answer and thank everybody for their responses, but my little boy has been sick and I've had to take time away from work etc...Anyways, I decided I needed more power to correctly push this bad boy so I got a great deal on a brand new Alpine MRX-M240. RMS Power Output @ 2 Ohms 2400 Watts and everywhere I read people were saying that brith sheets ranged from 2560-2700 @2 ohms. Plus, I got it brand new for $350.00 and free shipping to boot!! I know there are plenty better deals out there for amps @1ohm but I am dealing with a 2ohm setup here... After extensive searching and 2 different deals falling through I settled on this guy. I am getting it tomorrow so I will check back in for anyone who might be interested in the particulars. If anyone has any first hand experience with this particular amp then any constructive input is always welcome, and as long as respect is shown, respect is always given. Thanks again for any help. That amp should work just fine but be prepared to step up your electrical some. Also it probably won't do the entire 2400 watts its rated at, more like something in the 1800-2000 watts of usable power which is still enough. I would build a box for the sub as well if it were me. I would go with 2.5 cubes after displacement with 2 4" aeroports and tune it to 34hz or so. Those sub's are meant to be in a larger box than the other Sundown subs and the larger box should handle that amount of power just fine as long as you are responsible with the volume. I have been running the above mentioned setup for a little over 10 days and I am extremely satisfied with the Alpine MRX-M240. After EXTENSIVE research I realized that there are very few options for people in the situation of wanting to run 2000+ watts @ anything other than 1 ohm. For a setup @2 ohms mainstream it seems or bust. Even then there are only like 2 or 3 quality amps for the $. Especially in the under $500.00 ballpark! I had experience with alpine (pdx 1000 several years ago) and new relatively what I was getting, but I got a little more, I must say. I thought I might have to grab a new alternator, but first I decided to try a single XS Power D975's as a replacement battery for the deep cycle goodness it offers. I had a bunch of Rockford Fosgate 4awg Power Cable left over from past installs so I chopped that up and did the "big 3 deal". (Just did 2 strands each) and accordingly adjusted the gain (NOT SUBWOOFER VOLUME CONTROL as some thing lol) with a multi-meter using the correct amount via online calculator. After setting everything correctly, this thing HAMMERS. No headlight dim whatsoever. In fact, the Alpine Amp hasn't even gotten warm to the touch. Ice cold, ear ringing, eardrum ruining, bass. However, I have to say, the Sundown X-12 gets beaten by the T2's reasonably better SPL and the X-12 has lower SQ than the T2 Rocford (T2D412). Obviously the lows are much better but I'm not sure which one I like better.... I KNOW the Sundown sub can take the birth sheet rated 2640 watts but I don't know about the T2. When I bought the box I swear I read the tuning was in the mid 30's hz range. Turns out, in fact, I am an idiot because it is made for SPL Comps and is tuned to 42hz!!! Could I have picked a worse box for a sub that lives and dies with the lower hz, like the x-12?? I have ordered a correct box now, but it is custom so mean time I have tried lining the box interior with Urethane foam. I didn't expect much, but holy cow! After a bunch of idiot mistakes and blocking the port like a genius, I am extremely pleased with the results. Made sure I left unrestricted port air flow and since the foam is in 2 inch thick sheets I stapled to the sides of the box, it isn't even a mess or a hassle. The box is still off, but It is def in the ballpark range of prob upper 30's hz range. Sure made me like the X-12 more! If there is still anybody listening after all that, then I hope you can answer this dilemma I have: How will the T2 hold up if I simply swap out the subs and make little or no other adjustments outside of small tweaks? If not, what do I need to keep an eye out for if/when I decide to use the Fosgate? i.e. signs it is about to turn to charred ash. I have always been limited by the amp and know its signs of over stress. ***Just wanted to thank those of you who have been kind enough to share your knowledge and time to help me out. I was kinda skidish about posting here because I had read some pretty mean responses to questions seemingly more innocent to mine. So far, I have been shown nothing but respect and look forward to lurking around the forum and expanding my knowledge base.*** Quote Current System Deck: Pioneer DEH-80PRS (3-WAY ACTIVE) Incriminator Audio 3.4 4 Channel (75x4 @4 ohm) (2) NVX X-Series Active Tweeters (2) SB Acoustics SB16PFC25-8 6" 8 ohm Paper Cone Woofers Subs: (2) Sundown Audio SA-12's Amp: (1) Kicker CX 1800.l (43CXA1800.1) 2016 Model (It is rated 1800 @2 ohm but I have it running at 1 ohm, does a little over 2500!) Big 3 w/ 1/0 gauge wire (1) XS Power D4800 under the hood (1) Duracell Group 31 Deep Cycle (4) Runs of KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable (2 pos, 2 neg) (1) KONfused 4-way Power and Ground Block Alternator: DC Power XP 270 High Output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wright Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 that amp will be fine for that sub, just because you see other people pushing more than rated power to a sub doesn't mean you should, the given rating is there for a reason, follow it and you should be good. That is prob the most sound advice I've gotten on any forum. But since it sounded like my dad talking to me, I am highly unlikely to follow said advice and will most likely be looking to RMA a subwoofer something similar in the NEAR future. = Quote Current System Deck: Pioneer DEH-80PRS (3-WAY ACTIVE) Incriminator Audio 3.4 4 Channel (75x4 @4 ohm) (2) NVX X-Series Active Tweeters (2) SB Acoustics SB16PFC25-8 6" 8 ohm Paper Cone Woofers Subs: (2) Sundown Audio SA-12's Amp: (1) Kicker CX 1800.l (43CXA1800.1) 2016 Model (It is rated 1800 @2 ohm but I have it running at 1 ohm, does a little over 2500!) Big 3 w/ 1/0 gauge wire (1) XS Power D4800 under the hood (1) Duracell Group 31 Deep Cycle (4) Runs of KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable (2 pos, 2 neg) (1) KONfused 4-way Power and Ground Block Alternator: DC Power XP 270 High Output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wright Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 But use the right tools and make sure they don't cut crooked or slanted pieces....like a jigsaw that needs a new blade....lol You Sir have just described my first box building endeavor at 17 y.o. to a T. Metal blade, wood blade, meeehhhh, same thing!! Quote Current System Deck: Pioneer DEH-80PRS (3-WAY ACTIVE) Incriminator Audio 3.4 4 Channel (75x4 @4 ohm) (2) NVX X-Series Active Tweeters (2) SB Acoustics SB16PFC25-8 6" 8 ohm Paper Cone Woofers Subs: (2) Sundown Audio SA-12's Amp: (1) Kicker CX 1800.l (43CXA1800.1) 2016 Model (It is rated 1800 @2 ohm but I have it running at 1 ohm, does a little over 2500!) Big 3 w/ 1/0 gauge wire (1) XS Power D4800 under the hood (1) Duracell Group 31 Deep Cycle (4) Runs of KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable (2 pos, 2 neg) (1) KONfused 4-way Power and Ground Block Alternator: DC Power XP 270 High Output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N9neMillahhh Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Lmao yeah I'm using all my dads old used blades cause I can't find the new ones. And none of my setups have been worthwhile to buy new ones. Quote 02 Lexus IS300 (2JZ FTW) Mids/Highs: JL Audio C5 6.5s all around Mids/Highs Amp: JL Audio HD 600/4 Subs: four SA-8v2s in 3.8cubes @ 32hz Sub Amps: SAZ3k Battery: Huge Interstate Batteries relocated to trunk About 80ft. of 1/0 OFC.... Head Unit: Pioneer 4200NEX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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